yeah Ill have ta register here.. Just been tryin ta get LW working since I got the new computer.. LOL. Hmmm I guess Telstra is a lil more expencive than some other providers but I just upgraded from ADSL to Cable and stayed with bigpond. Ill have ta figure out how ta register so I can us the I.M function & get notified about replies. Thanks heaps for your help Lord Of The Rings Ill click on them links and see where it leads me. I tried updating my Java already though, was in another forum that I read so I thought I would give it a shot, did`nt seem ta help though :P. Thanks again