well I clicked on them links and read all I could find but it does`nt really help much, I set up my Nortons manually to permit everyting, UPD,TCP incoming and outgoing and gave it permision to connect to or be connected to by *any* computer and its still being a pain. Will usually get like 42% of a file, semi fast and then it slows down (stops?) to 0kbs and the connection quality drops ou t(usually disconnects) . If im on any Instant messaging prog they usually drop out as well and require me to log off and sign back in before they will reconnect... Might actually have ta go buy the CDs and make the MP3s for my Ipod :O... LOL Sorry. Will keep poking through the forums I might find something thats simular to what Im going through thats already been fixed. Thanks again