Thanks All for the help. dlaskin Reading your questions and everyones answers, Lord, Lassie, etc helped me figure this all out. I have a new computer with 160 GB and want to share these DVD's with all. I found my best copying DVD program from here at lime wire for free. DVD Shrink 3.2, I'm sharing all the DVD's I rent with this handy guy, and making my copies. But I've been wondering about converting so thanks again. I just downloaded That VSO program and going to try it.