Thanks Zab, I did not think that running the report had anything to do with it. I figured it had to do with UPnP but I thought the stack traces might help since one was before settings changed and one after. If I do not know if this is a router problem or a LW bug but if there is anyway I can help by leaving the UPnP on and not port forwarding let me know. Obvously if it is a router problem ther is no way I can help. My router is a Linksys etherfast cable/dsl 4 port switch model BEFSR41 I will be away for a few days so I wont be able to do any testing for a few days.

Latter Grandpa