Thanks heaps i went through the limewire fixes one by one and it works now, not exactly sure which one fixed it but think it was the java dload, the version i downloaded is 4.9.26 and it's been here for about a week ( give or take ) anyway thanks again i probably would of given it up as a bad joke sooner or later, my patience with comp glitches is rather short. while I'm at it how do i get my appearence changed from being junior user whilst it is flattering in some respects it has been a while since i have been called junior.

regards
Kym