Yes, you are right to all the above, but yet they are "users" of limewire.... and no they don't tell about the free download version...but also without them I would not have heard about limewire....And now that I did I will be swapping after my year is up. So thanks, I still do feel stuck and cheated but they do offer tools to download that otherwise I would have to purchase or search for with little effort to find on the net....

Thanks



bess