thank loads to both of you, am downloading the player now, have a feeling i may still need to pester the folks on this site for many weeks to come, i'll let you know how things are going..
and another thing, we're on limewire, but haven't figured out how to get any of our own music into the site for sharing, is there a simple way? it needs to be simple because we spent a night trying to load our girls' mp3 players with stuff, and that's supposed to be a one step process!