sorry to burst your bubble cyclocide, but gnotella needs to be updated! i was using gnotella before i read that post by graig, who i have to thank. gnotella used to drive me crazy, cause i never knew why it wasn't working. bearshare rules! unlike gnotella, which was a bitch to set up, bearshare gets started by itself with no configuring required, and tells you exactly why a file can't be downloaded. the searches are MUCH FASTER, and so far, no bugs on my system. i think if anyone tried bearshare they would no longer be using gnotella. peace - dolo54