thanks "lotr" the link was useful my friend also found it useful as he found out his provider on the list, i looked but could not find the other thread you mentioned anyone know where it is, i am in uk by the way sorry forgot to mention that.

uswitch.com recommended toucan but i have never heard of them but not sure how independant uswitch are as some more notable isp's were not even listed. checked a couple of other sites linked with magazines just confused me more didn't really help, i dont want to move and be tied in for a year only to find the same problem.