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Old December 12th, 2001
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Originally posted by LoKi128
The thing with freeloaders is, no one is REALLY freeloading on the network. Sure, some people may be leeching, but even those people are still routing our searches and responses around, so they are still contributing to the health of the network.
That's wrong. The problem of freeloading is they DO HARM the network more then what they give back. If there would be no freeloader, we would have less busy slots, higher availability of files and higher bandwith for all.

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At the end of the day, there is nothing we can do to freeloaders, since anyone can fake share files. To me, it's a non-issure. If you don't want to share, thats your problem.
You didn't read this thread. We have talked about _friendly_ anti-freeloader ideas, we want encourage to share, not punishing anyone! For sure there is something we can do, we have listeted possible technical and social aspects to make freeloading obsolete.

Here is something I posted in other threads (1 2):

The bandwith of modem users is completely wasted right now and modem users are often "forced" to be freeloader. Actually this egoizm is contraproductive and means less files for all. While high bandwith users can share the traditional way, swarming is a key to make low bandwith users share with the network, without any significant negative effect or traffic-overhead. For both, for high and low bandwith users, sharing should mean there is a guaranteed high percentage of bandwith available for their own use! Conclusion: There are many ideas to envolve Gnutella and all work together:
1. A superpeer concept for dynamic traffic routing = reducing backbone traffic + improves network toplogy + increases horizon (more available files)
2. Search-caches for reducing double/multiple routed traffic = reducing high amout of search backbone traffic
3. Swarming technology = make use of the high amout of wasted bandwith + will spread often requested files + balance load + less "busy" servants (more available files)
4. Add more ideas here (see above)...

PS: About Johns swarming critic, I gave a link with possible implementation details. A superpeer concept must not stop swarming, no, both works together! Perhaps with a new descriptor (SUPERPONG) to improve information flow.

Last edited by Moak; December 12th, 2001 at 11:20 PM.
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