can i just say i have dl a couple of exe files and all has been fine, but i wouldnt dream of opening anything without checking size etc, looking on bizi, then going over with every antivirus i have, i have recently asked on here what i can do to warn others if i find any bad files, but my main point in writing is,i have learnt things over last few months and we are all new at some point and if you all , that have been long standing members, bear with us newbies, we will learn how to do things as you do, most people passing viruses on dont know any better, iv learnt a lot reading these forums (thank you lord of the ring and others) please bear with us!!