I havent had a good agrugment for a long time, even though im not really agruging yet. I support MS by buying the product and i do send back feedback along with errors. if i could mod, develope, or test for MS i surly would. maybe one day i will.

I would go check out BS.DE but i dont know german .
You talk of spy ware/ and ads i dont know where the ad thing came from. But i only installed onflow once[after it was non forced} to test an uninstall program one of the programmers made. i never liked the 3rd party products my self. they have alot of bugs with many systems. so i dont install them.

About censorship... there is very little. I havent edited more then 2 post in the last 2 weeks. I do check post to see who has messed with them. and the text feild is usally blank. But me not editing post leads for flame wars. i often wanted to shut down the public fourms because its to hard to desicide weather or not to edit post.

Many of people talk of other clients in bearshare. I talk with other users and review clients. usally it is limewire.

Becker