thanks for the help 'wondering why', I went to this page and updated java....http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp. now I have a new message that says "limewire was unable to load. Please download and install Limewire again" I did download and install and during install it says there is an older version of limewire so it must abort or retry. there is no version that I can find and my comp. will not allow me to access the task manager from the bottom toolbar to see if it is secretly running. Anybody have any ideas? Please share, Thanks!