like i said zone alarm and windows firewall both running just fine, never had a problem connecting downloading or sharing, for the 150 songs i downloaded at least 80 were uploaded, not a bad trade. No one kills a sharer i've noticed. sometimes i just load up 20 or 30 songs at a time from one user and they do the same, go get a coffee and an hour later its all done. 30 of those songs came from one guy at 55kbs each, one at a time mind you thats less than a minute a song. I thought i was doing what everybody else was doing, sounds like theres a lot of people with dramas out there.