sorry for confusion with the two threads. I found this which may be helpful:
http://ict.cas.psu.edu/Training/howt...s-i586-p-s.exe
This link takes you to a slightly different version of java - and this one works!
the difference you can see is in the file name - it contains the letter -p- in it, and allows to install English only (good idea for me LOL) and also optionally the google toolbar. Java is now installed with this version.
B.S.