Hi me again.... Doh ! Okely dokely... this is where im at ... I tried everytin u said, just no luck... soooo the new version ive uninstalled that and got my old version back... problem still there its freezin on some old downloads that I had running... any solutions to how to fix that ? LW version 4.8.1 i have windows XP ... also when u say about deleting LW preference folder .. i really dont know what u mean and where to start ??? soz im a dumpling told u keep it basic im rather simple ! But many thnx for trying to help