Ok...I repaired permissions, and installed quicktime 7.1.3. i try to open the java preferences thing but it still bounces and disappears, as both limewire and frostwire do. i have a macbook(intel). no dice...oh and i have the newest beta of limewire and the newest regular version of frostwire (i am not sure how to check the version since i cant open them)...i don't know what else to do...sorry i suck at this stuff and really appreciate all the help...but still nothing is working...