1. Yes the isp isn't the problem (my other computer (laptop) connects to lw fine)
2. Java totally removed
3. Lw uninstalled
4. Rebooted
5. Searched with no results (already deleted the preferences folder)
6. Rebooted
7. Java removed and internet disconnected
8. Java reinstalled
9. Lw reinstalled and still the same message
no go...