Whoopee!! I finally did it. I did a search on Bitzi then typed in the exact file name that it had listed in my search and got one to come up. Now it is downloading...... I could have never done it without your help! Thanks a bunch.. When it gets done here, then I will probably post about using my new dvd burner... I havent ever done that before either. Thanks again and now it is time to take a nap before work in the mornin. Later.