wow, whatt a PITA that was, no clue whatt was up. i deleted java, and limewire like 10million times redownloaded them an still got same, lastnite i was about to log off for the nite an decided to retry it. so i delete everything of java and limewire, reinstalled and retried, since my limewire is working Awesomely.. Cannot tell u how much i've missed it, i even downloaded and paid for ares ultra, it's not as good as i'm told it was but w/e i got lw back....TYVM for all the walkthroughs an helps