Thanks for the link Wondering. Oh sorry Blacky I didn't know I was getting heavy handed. It was the only way to be sure I wasn't just being ignored or overlooked. And I hoped I would tweak someones honor.

Didn't work. Well actually it did tweak Wonder enough to get me the link. A new copy of the file? I thought thats what the number was for. I often wondered if I changed the name of a download would it show up as new? I think so. I've downed a more than a few old ones only to find them repeats.

thanks guys