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Old April 11th, 2002
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Unregistered, you don't really expect me to answer to a thread like that, do you? Yes, Ultrapeers are a very good thing to the network, and it seems even you understood that by now. Yet you are either not willing or not capable of changing your arrogant and ignorant behaviour.

as i understand your point of view, gnutella is fun. it is a network built by anarchists for anarchists and noone should use it to gain profit from it. therefore, the only clients allowed on this network should be open source ones.

i very much appreciate your marxist ideals, but you have to understand that you live in a capitalist world and nothing can change that. gnutella is an open network and that means open for everyone. If you want to improve opensource clients like gnucleus, do it, it's a good thing. but honestly, the most proposals for protocol extensions were created by corporations. For example, MetaData, Ultrapeer, QRP and Ping/Pong were all introduced by LimeWire LLC. These folks are working on Gnutella as a full time job, while opensource programmers do it in their spare time. we live in a capitalist world, therefore everyone must take money for his work. so either they earn the money by working on gnutella, or they work on something else and do gnutella in their spare time. that's reality.

When you call gnutella messages "spam" just because the servent who initially sent them displays ads in order to pay the bills, then you are either very stupid or ideologically blinded. i expect the letter one. adware is bad, but it is the decision of the lime users if they want it or not. it is not your decision to block those users. how many people chose to use the old morpheus? it had much more ads than lime, but it had the better features, so they chose it and that seems to be a good reason.

i tried to explain to you that limewire does in no way hurt the gnutella network. it is simply stupid to block them because your ideology tells you that noone should make profit from gnutella. if there are ads in Limewire, that is only of importance for the limewire developers and the limewire users. it doesn't effect the network at all. if you want to block every capitalist influence off your world, than you should first go and create a private noncapitalist internet, fo more than half of TCP/IP is used for commercial purposes.

it is you who hurts gnutella, not corporations.

PS: once again, this post is in no way about the politics of Bearshare. i cannot recommend to use Bear, for this program does cluster by vendor and not by feature, and as its encrypted packages are suspicious to me too.
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