hey mods...thanks in advance for your help...i have done quite a bit of reading, including the stickys, but can't find my problem answered anywhere...i emptied my trash, got rid of all old LWs, bought the new LW pro (4.18.8 i think), and whenever i run the installer, it works, but then the lime icon never comes up on the desktop or hard drive, so i can't get to LW...i did the troubleshooting in the sticky about my firewall, and still nothing...i am on mac OS 10.4.11 with wireless hookup and plenty of room for it on the hard drive...any clue as to what i should do next, or what i am doing wrong?...thanks!