Thanks for that - no the crap I'm talking about is all sorts of promotional garbage like download managers (Livid) and nasty stuff like FB Downloader that take over your home page. A lot of these 'invitations' to install have no 'decline' option an end up aborting the whole process.

Anyway, I'll give it one more go today and then I think I'll get on with the rest of my life! I appreciate all the help you've provided. I know you guys do it out of pride in the product (LimeWire) and a genuine urge to help poor saps like me, and it is much appreciated. All the best.

Just a thought - would it not be possible to package LimeWire Pirate edition as a self-contained, self-install, works-out-of-the-box, semi-automated process? I know it's not a commercial product and nobody makes any money but you fellas invest a lot of time and energy helping people get over the same old problems. Why not invest that time and energy in making the whole process more foolproof?

Thanks again.

Taffstuart