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Old May 29th, 2001
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Default Re: Re: Everyone is here!

Quote:
Originally posted by Brotaris

So how often have you been deleted "over there"?
How often do you know of anyone being deleted "over there"?
What makes you so sure that deleting is happening soooo much that you feel the need for such comments?

Far as I know there have been two or three actual deletions "over there", and never and entire thread, only individual posts.

Please let's stop the sensationalizing of facts, people. It only causes friction and delays any progress toward resolving the issues.
Brotaris,

As one who actually did have a post censored on BearshareNet, and for no good reason I might add (I will quote the original post again so that you can judge for yourself), I've got to say that it's a pretty shitty way for a developer to deal with members of his user base. I also had a post cancelled on the alt.gnutella usenet group, and although I can't prove that Vinnie cancelled the post, I can't imagine anyone else in this little community who had either the will or the ability to do it. You've got to admit that Vinnie got waaay out of hand over this issue. Let me refresh your memory with a couple of choice quotes from Mr. Falco:

1 - BearshareNet "Ad Supported Software" forum:
May-24-01, 07:03 AM (EST)
>Sorry bodhi, I had to delete your post.
>Reason: you complained about encrypted packets.

2 - Gnutelluims Bearshare Forum, thread entitled "A warning to all
about BearShare":
05-25-2001 07:19 AM (GMT)
>FFF**** you, bodhi
>Come back and post on BearShare.Net, so I can delete your
> sorry a$$ again."

3 - Gnutelluims Bearshare Forum, thread entitled "Heavy handed
moderation at BearshareNet":
05-25-2001 07:15 AM (GMT)
>Yeah I deleted your post.
>You are a nincompoop.
>The nature and content of the messages was CLEARLY
>EXPLAINED!
>You are full of caca!!!
>...snip...
>If you posted this $hit in my forum I would delete it
>instantly because its garbage.
>...snip...
>So what do you have to say for yourself now, jerk?

Does this sound like adult behavior to you? Here, once again, is the complete text of the post that elicited these responses:

[In followup to a thread in BearshareNet about Mr. Falco's threats to shut down the Adware forum and censor posts]

"Vinnie's attitude recently is the reason that have uninstalled Bearshare from my box and have moved to Gnucleus. I have always been disturbed by the spyware bundling, but put up with it because I thought Bearshare was the best servent available. Then I found out about the encrypted message packets that Bearshare sends out and that disturbed me more. I have never heard a pausible explanation for these encrypted messages from Vinnie to this date. Finally, within the past week, Vinnie has posted several messages which include vitriolic comments about folks who may have questiond his judgement in using the spyware and has threatened to shut down this forum. That was enough for me.

I decided to try a couple of servents that I had never tried to find an alternative to Bearshare and I stumbled upon Gnucleus. Let me tell you folks, Gnucleus is as good, if not better than Bearshare. In many ways it IS better than Bearshare. It is more stable, seems to return more search results which are better organized, and the download resume features are a lot more intuitve. But best of all, there is NO SPYWARE, it sends no encrypted packets, and is OPEN SOURCE. I uninstalled Bearshare and I'm not looking back. Gnucleus is serving all my Gnutella needs without all the hassle and worry associated with Bearshare. I'd urge anyone who has doubts about Bearshare to check it out.

Hope this helps..."

As you can painly see this post was neither malicious nor abusive. I was merely stating my objections to Vinnie's threats to shut down the Adware Forum, and his intention to begin a program of, as he put it, "heavy handed moderation" on BearshareNet. I was also upset over Vinnie's recent behavior and was excited about a good alternative to Bearshare. I don't believe that this post deserved deletion. Do you?
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