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Old June 22nd, 2002
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Default Put the blame on me

I'm the author of the message thats begin this thread. I didn't register at that moment only becouse i hadn't time. So, relax please.

I'm thinking about make a gnutella servant. There are my terrific "intentions behind my considerable request" (Ursula dixit).

Moak, Cultiv8r,

Yes, i enter the GDF (and see its docs and database) but the problem is that the GDF is, primarily, a running discusion about proposals, so, if one there wasn't at beginning of the discussion, then the new member need to read near 8000 posts. So, there isn't a clear bottomline from which begin to build, with or without the latest proposals (the only clear protocol implemented version is 0.4, and is clear that this version is really obsolete).

I didn't see also clear release notes where i could read the levels of the protocol that each implementations acomplish. If anyone knows about that, please tell me.

Remains the posibility or study the sources of, for example, gnucleus and limewire (i yet begun to do that), but it's hard work. And some programs like Bearshare seems to be close source (is that true?).

About hashing i don't see a problem between diferent hashing methods in HUGE and QRP, since the targets of both proposals are completely diferrent (contens, MBs of data vs keywords, some characters to binary hash tables), so it is not rare that you need two diferent hash algorithms. But i actually see a problem in metadata and HUGE mixed with QRP, since the rich metadata search were proposed and the QRP don't solve searches in the hash tables with a metadata or urn query. And this is a important problem becouse, as you said, QRP is the base of ultrapeer, and, if QRP don't discriminate thru hashtables a lot of searches, then need to broadcasting a lot and the ultrapaper schema will lose its sense.

Of course, you would say me that the only solutions of my questions is to study the GDF and so on and so forth, but, sometimes, someone had have the same problems that you and have (possibly part) the answers, so I try to ask.

Additional problems is that gnutella network seems to decrease its user since the great boom of morpheus inclusion. I am talking about limewire stats. The only comparative stats that I found was in http://www.slyck.com/. And they show gnutella don't get to ride the wave. I ask slyck about where that’s stats come from, but they don't reply me. If anyone knows other stats, and how are the sources of stats, please tell me.

Anyway, what I am trying to say, it's that I understand is normal the undefinition in a developing issue like gnutella, but its true too that is needed some type of checkpoint agreetment for the gnutella community gets a solid grown, becouse there are a competition out there and the gnutella possible advantage is cooperation.

Thanks, and sorry about my poor english.
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