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Old June 19th, 2001
CycloCide CycloCide is offline
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Originally posted by anti-bearshare
Anyways do you like my site Vinnie? :]
Keep in mind that I'm not defending Vinnie or BearShare here; I'm just stating the facts.

In response to your site, specifically reason number 6:

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06. Adware.
BearShare 2.2.4 has html viewing built into the client (html banners). Imagine if Vinnie gets 5 cents a "click" and it clicks every minute. Say at minimum 25% (10,000 hosts) are BearShare users out of the daily 40,000. [ 10,000 x .05 = $500 ] in just one minute!
That html page you described (http://home.bearshare.com/) doesn't load (click) every minute. It only loads when you start BearShare.

The ads on that page are being served by <a href="http://www.fastclick.com/">FastClick</a>. I'm familiar with FastClick because we use them for our sites. They pay CPM for pop-unders and either CPM or CPC for 468x60 banner ads, but they only pay for unique users. So using your example, if 10,000 unique users load that page, Vinnie receives 10 * CPM/CPC rate, which is just a small fraction of what you calculated.

Vinnie initially bundled those so-called "spyware" applications with BearShare to generate revenue. A lot of people complained so he made installing them optional in version 2.2.4, and integrated a web browser instead. Now you're complaining about the web browser? Developing BearShare is expensive, distributing it is expensive, and supporting it is expensive. Money doesn't grow on trees and Vinnie doesn't have backing from a company with a lot of resources like Gnotella and LimeWire do. So how do you expect Vinnie to generate revenue from BearShare if he doesn't bundle those applications or integrate a web browser?

Last edited by CycloCide; June 19th, 2001 at 09:15 PM.
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