Thanks for all the details s:-) ... And for finally mentioning your clients!!!! Now that didn't hurt, did it!

I take it you are using a far greater bandwidth than I have. That in itself has a substantial effect. As you say fast in, fast out is always best. That is self evident!

It makes it even more pertinent that I can do as well as I do with my narrow bandwidth.

I beg to differ on your above comment. Perhaps because you do not have a Mac, so you can not try Poisoned which took no setting up and just ran as expected.

stief thinks Poisoned may use port hopping to get its better results. I don't care how it does it, just that it does.

There was an issue with the last upgrade stuffing up existing daemons but I am able to run it here in my old Jaguar system perfectly well till a new version clears up the one in Panther. The upgrades come quick and fast so I'll let it mature a few more iterations before upgrading.