Good on you griff3, you tell them! Funny how microsoft can't keep away from copying mac gui's. xp is so mac, it's a joke. Yet ms never gets anything right. As griff3 pointed out. How many bugs do ms users have to put up with with each update. Talk about incompetence. Yeah & that issue about crashes; that's one part of osx I really do love! The ram management of osx is very reassuring. ms os's even limit the ram their users can use. Wonder why. I can use 3 os's simultaneously on my comp, chicagojohn is restricted to a single bug infested, extremely virus prone, limited os (unless you're programming I guess.) [xp Sounds like a critter from LOTR.] "cool waters" get very cold when something goes wrong. hehehe I had to get u back!