Keep in mind that I'm not defending Vinnie or BearShare here; I'm just stating the facts.

In response to your site, specifically reason number 6:

That html page you described (http://home.bearshare.com/) doesn't load (click) every minute. It only loads when you start BearShare.

The ads on that page are being served by <a href="http://www.fastclick.com/">FastClick</a>. I'm familiar with FastClick because we use them for our sites. They pay CPM for pop-unders and either CPM or CPC for 468x60 banner ads, but they only pay for unique users. So using your example, if 10,000 unique users load that page, Vinnie receives 10 * CPM/CPC rate, which is just a small fraction of what you calculated.

Vinnie initially bundled those so-called "spyware" applications with BearShare to generate revenue. A lot of people complained so he made installing them optional in version 2.2.4, and integrated a web browser instead. Now you're complaining about the web browser? Developing BearShare is expensive, distributing it is expensive, and supporting it is expensive. Money doesn't grow on trees and Vinnie doesn't have backing from a company with a lot of resources like Gnotella and LimeWire do. So how do you expect Vinnie to generate revenue from BearShare if he doesn't bundle those applications or integrate a web browser?

http://slashdot.org/yro/00/09/26/1248204.shtml

http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,39086,00.html

Still, no matter how scathing it might be, parody is legal -- specifically protected by a "fair use" provision in trademark and copyright law -- so long as it meets certain tests.

For parody to be legal, there has to be a meaningful connection between the subject of the parody and the ultimate message. In other words, you can't take, say, the Microsoft logo and use it to make a parody about evil corporations destroying the ozone layer. Also, the parody has to be sufficiently distinct from the original to be recognizable as a parody.

- taked from the <a href="http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,39086,00.html">Wired.com story</a>.

I was depicting the relationship with BearShare to BearShit (as it sucks) and BearShit as "BearShare". Then with the whole phrase Anti-BearShit.

They didn't even go to court to decide if it was copyright infringement or not.

That is why I said Imagine....My intent on that comment was not really for Vinnie making the money. Because apparently no one wants to invest into Vinnie's awesome company. With the intergration of adware, spyware, html banners, etc. Gnutella will become commericalized. No one wants thats. I ****ing hate ads myself. Also with ads there are privacy issues. Such as cookies and other things that ultimately lead to companies tracking your web usage. That is a fact. I dont like that either. Neither should you.

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The ads on that page are being served by <a href="http://www.fastclick.com/">FastClick</a>. I'm familiar with FastClick because we use them for our sites. They pay CPM for pop-unders and either CPM or CPC for 468x60 banner ads, but they only pay for unique users. So using your example, if 10,000 unique users load that page, Vinnie receives 10 * CPM/CPC rate, which is just a small fraction of what you calculated.[QUOTE]
Same as above.

Sell drugs (joke if anyone didnt notice). I'll have to say same as above.


Cyclocide thank you for letting my posts stay and me expressing my thoughts about a certain subject. Thank you.

Still, no matter how scathing it might be, parody is legal -- specifically protected by a "fair use" provision in trademark and copyright law -- so long as it meets certain tests.

For parody to be legal, there has to be a meaningful connection between the subject of the parody and the ultimate message. In other words, you can't take, say, the Microsoft logo and use it to make a parody about evil corporations destroying the ozone layer. Also, the parody has to be sufficiently distinct from the original to be recognizable as a parody.

- taked from the <a href="http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,39086,00.html">Wired.com story</a>.

I was depicting the relationship with BearShare to BearShit (as it sucks) and BearShit as "BearShare". Then with the whole phrase Anti-BearShit.

They didn't even go to court to decide if it was copyright infringement or not.

http://www.aahost.net/gnutella/bearshit
is down... free speech against bussines, again money rules.

Yep. Main page is http://www.aahost.net/gnutella. Anyone know of other free hosting sites like aahost.net? I've emailed the administrators.

You mean like
http://www.fortunecity.com/
http://geocities.yahoo.com/home

Better ask http://www.google.com for more free web hosting and create some mirror sites. Maybe you wanna add a forum too, there should be some free forum hosters out there.

You're right. pud (the guy who runs ****ed Company) backed off when those companies threatened him because he didn't want to deal with them.

Will you allow me to post the image?