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Old March 16th, 2002
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Default Re: How does it know if it's is a BearShare?

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it wouldn't be that hard to modify a client to lie to the BearShare hostcache and say it is BearShare. This would completely defeat Vinnie's domination plan.
Ah, but you are confused.

The goal is not "domination". It is simply to group BearShare servents together.

It doesn't matter if the host cache is not fully secure because we aren't trying to separate from the network or deny service to anyone (note connectX.gnutellanet.com are running BearShare host caches).

All we are trying to do is structure the BearShare portion of the network a little more intelligently so that users get a better experience.

Therefore, if a few modified servents "lie" to our host cache it really isn't a big deal.
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Old March 16th, 2002
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Excuse the new dummie, and try not to rag on me too much, K?
I won't even pretend to be up on Gnutella Protocol (thus and honest question)
I have been using bearshare 2.50 since it started in development.
Right here and now, I have 5 hosts - 4 BS and 1 gtk-gnutella. Meanwhile, my uploads are dominated be Gnucleus and gtk-gnutella, hammering at requests apparently every second!? One guy is trying to get 9 files...he/she is putting a scroll bar on my upload screen (I have 3 slots open - 1 per user) I have high speed, so I finally said screw it, opened 7 slots and 7 per user. Doesn't matter because this behavior is typical and unending....Without exageration I would say at least 70% of my uploads have been to non-BS servents in the past week. In spite of the hosts.
So, why is unending, greedy, ignorant, rude-as-hell (especially when you find out they are on dial-up) hammering not a big deal. I don't see many of you complaining of that. Again, I am truly just curious here. The rest of your points concerning BS and Limewire are taken.
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Old March 16th, 2002
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Default Re: Re: How does it know if it's is a BearShare?

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Originally posted by Vinnie

All we are trying to do is structure the BearShare portion of the network a little more intelligently so that users get a better experience.

Therefore, if a few modified servents "lie" to our host cache it really isn't a big deal.
In my eyes "IMPROVING THE NETWORK" means the whole network... not only a little portion! This is SEPERATING!

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Old March 17th, 2002
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Default Re: Re: Re: How does it know if it's is a BearShare?

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In my eyes "IMPROVING THE NETWORK" means the whole network... not only a little portion! This is SEPERATING!

Morgwen
I, in my humble mind, think that Unregistered people of these fourms come up with some of the worse lies and bull **** i have ever seen.

As for bearshare grouping bearshare. Good! I use bearshare alot and i use all the host cache. I was connected to non bearshare clients and the only hosted files where morphus. I downloaded 2 larger files. 70 megs a pop. They were tv shows. well with the new muti-source downloading the files were screwed up. i read some where the limewire was going to hash files. maybe then vinnie wont group bearshare. but untill then i would like good files :Þ

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Old March 18th, 2002
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Funny...

the new version is out... and I read this:

http://www.bearshare.net/forum/showt...threadid=10729

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but untill then i would like good files :Þ

Becker
He?

So now are the other files bad or what? Hey I am using Gnutella for over a year now - I tested every cllient... which bad files?

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Old March 18th, 2002
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Default Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How does it know if it's is a BearShare?

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He?

So now are the other files bad or what? Hey I am using Gnutella for over a year now - I tested every cllient... which bad files?

Morgwen
Yes the files skip crack and stop i wasnt happy.
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Hmm...

this never happened to me... and I have tested more than only bearshare - perhaps a communication problem between bearshare and the other clients?

Ah Becker,

perhaps you know also why bearshare sends encrypted data packages when it connect? I am curious!

Morgwen
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In spite of the hosts.
So, why is unending, greedy, ignorant, rude-as-hell (especially when you find out they are on dial-up) hammering not a big deal. I don't see many of you complaining of that.
BearShare does this back to me too, it fills up my incoming bandwidth and I can't do much. (I am not running bearshare)
So now I block any connections from bearshare and then they never know I am here and don't plaster me with incoming packets.
I get more files this way.
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Old March 18th, 2002
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Hmm...

this never happened to me... and I have tested more than only bearshare - perhaps a communication problem between bearshare and the other clients?

Ah Becker,

perhaps you know also why bearshare sends encrypted data packages when it connect? I am curious!

Morgwen

start your sniffers!

Becker
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