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LW already has keyword filters. Add them yourself. Add Pedo, etc. & then you won't have to worry about it anymore. How to use the Keyword Filter It's very handy & effective & can be used to get rid of most porn also.
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I know how to add the filters. I'm talking about hardcoded filters (ie built into the software). Then again I can see problems with that. I think more importantly is the traceability.. If a 15 year old girl can be prosecuted for sharing music via a P2P network I am dam sure Pedophiles can be caught. It would be useful if there was an alert mechanism built in that could send a report to the appropriate authority. What do you think?
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Limewire is open source. You're free to add these types of things to your own version. But start bringing in what you're suggesting, then it's auto-report to RIAA for music copyright infringement, MPIA for movie copyright, etc. You'd destroy the merits of a very good program. Already LW is under pressure & brought in the licensing warning option. Enough is enough. This is not a police state where I live & am not into dictatoral environments. Perhaps you are. What if someone downlds a setchy file by mistake but it sits in their share for days or weeks because they hadn't got around to checking it. That person could find themselves convicted as a Pedophile despite their total opposition to Pedophilia. Such an option will bring in more such options & before you know it ... It'd be like an auto booking system on your car. You momentarily pass the speed limit by 3 km/h or 3 M/h whilst passing a car or coming over a large hill & you get an automatic ticket (even if you were several ticks below the speed limit as you were going up the hill). lol What's the world coming to.

Oh don't forget you can block hosts. So if you find such a person (if they have multiple such files & are obviously collecting & sharing that type of topic), then you can report & block them.
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"A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules, often with the assistance of unsuspecting musicians." -- Frank Zappa
"Tobacco is my favorite vegetable." / "May your sh*t come to life and kiss you on the face." / "Scientology, how about that? You hold on to the tin cans and then this guy asks you a bunch of questions, and if you pay enough money you get to join the master race. How's that for a religion?" / "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." / "There are three things that smell of fish. One of them is fish. The other two are growing on you!" / "Jazz is not dead, it just smells funny." / "The creation and destruction of harmonic and 'statistical' tensions is essential to the maintenance of compositional drama. Any composition (or improvisation) which remains consonant and 'regular' throughout is, for me, equivalent to watching a movie with only 'good guys' in it, or eating cottage cheese." / "Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over." / "The most important thing to do in your life, is to not interfere with somebody else's life." / "Rock journalism is people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, in order to provide articles for people who can't read." -- Frank Zappa
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OK. Love a good discussion. Funs over.

However, how about this for a scenario. I've joined the group, posted a few messages, asked a few questions and have now decided that the P2P network is the perfect place to distribute Kiddie porn. Acording to you guys I'd be completely untouchable. Cool.
Fortunatley I don't do that kind of thing. I don't live in a police state and woudn't report somone for selling pirate DVD's or littering (both crimes) I would however, report someone for making a Kiddie porn movie. I think a line needs to be drawn somewere that's all.


Over and Out.


BTW, the net in monitered constantly. I've worked for the security services and know that "Big Brother" watches us all.
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Acording to you guys I'd be completely untouchable ... BTW, the net in monitered constantly. I've worked for the security services and know that "Big Brother" watches us all.
1. Not at all. 2. I'm aware. Some countries have more respect for privacy than others. That includes ISP's.
BTW I am aware/know of someone who does work for a special unit of policing in multiple areas but one also being the area of this topic. This person is a member of the forum. Unfortunately they've been too busy to be around of late.
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I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein
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Yes an interesting point. Lets leave everyone do what ever they want and nobody stick there nose in. That way we'll all be happy right. Why do theose nasty policemen monitor road speed, and store detectivers try to stiop the hard working thief. I mean those pescy virus scanners are such a pain for the hardworking code writers. I think this concpet has a political basis. Thats right it "ITS's CALLED ANARCHY!"
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Exclamation UPDATE

AT LEAST SOMEONE IS INTERESTED ENOUGH TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!

We at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children received the information that you reported to IC3.gov. Thank you for making a report. All of the information you provided is currently accessible by those federal law enforcement agencies handling child sexual exploitation.



I have some additional questions regarding the incident:



1) What is the nickname or username of the suspect sharing the file?

2) What is the exact date and time of the incident? What is your computer time zone?

3) What is the IP address of the suspect sharing the illegal material?

4) Was the file downloaded and viewed? If yes, please describe.



If you downloaded any of the material in question, you may now be in possession of illegal child pornography. Even if you have deleted the file, it may still be present on your computer. In addition, other users on the P2P network may be able to upload the file from you. We generally suggest that you contact law enforcement in your area and request assistance in removing the file from your computer.



Please let me know about the above when you have a chance.



Thank you for your help,

Kimberly

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Nice work! I presume you provided the ip address & date.

BTW There's a no. of free utilities around that can permanently delete files from your hard disk drive. Here's one & a list of more at the bottom of the page: http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/fil...d,22393,00.asp

And here's some more: http://www.download.com/3120-20_4-0....&search=+Go%21
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Oh yes. and I've used a Department of Defence 5220.25M Secure Deletion tool so It should be pretty well scattered to the 4 winds!!!!!
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Here's another link to many national sites used to report child abuse.

Click on your country to find the links to the appropriate authority.

http://www.virtualglobaltaskforce.co...contactus.html
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