Windows 7
 

I heard rumors M$ were going to be copying several features from Apple's OSX. Looking at some snapshots of Windows 7 it seems that is true. The new Taskbar is almost a direct copy from OSX's 10+ year old Dock feature. Semi transparency .. another take from OSX. Widgets, another take. Soon Windows will be running OSX. :rofl: nah .. windows is still based on that ancient DOS system whilst OSX is on the much more secure & directory efficient Unix system. :p But I wonder if win 7's task bar can be 'animated' like OSX's Dock can. Next they'll be copying the dashboard .. or have they already lol. :D (Mac's features do not look so 'plastic' as window 7's dupes.)

wow .. don't M$ have 'any' designers with 'original' ideas? Or is it their original ideas that create so many bugs & security holes in their softwares. lol :D

Windows 7.0
 

Well LOTR

Windows 7 is not so much about features, but there will be enough to keep the techies happy, as it is about selling computers and computer related peripherals.

First of all, when Win7 goes live consumers will need more powerful, i.e. new, computers, just to get the O/S to move. So throw out the old stuff, it won't work anymore, and get your shiny new computers. This is "good" for Intel, AMD and all the makers of various peripherals and software.

Second, it keeps a lot of IT technical people, i.e. consultants, network experts, software writers, etc. in jobs. In order to keep their skills up to date they have to learn about the new O/S.

Third, It keeps the qualification/examination cycle going and IT training centres open.

So, ladies and gents, Win7 may have old or new features but it's primary concern is to keep the IT industry (or a big part of it) going.

Therefore, we will always get a new Win O/S every few years, after the old one stops making money for MS, and we will always fall for it thinking that we are getting something new and exciting.

I would say to those looking to buy new computers with Win7 pre installed, just be careful that you don't buy old stock PCs, which were designed for XP or Vista, with Win7 installed. PC manufacturers have a habit of selling off their old stock as "New O/S Ready" when the CPU and installed memory are not powerful enough to run the new O/S.



UK Bob

Anybody ready for a third serving of NTFS?

Yumm Yumm

Same ridiculously hungry waste of RAM and CPU cycles garbage with old-style buttons 'the people' demanded.

While I agree with a lot of that, there is one thing I've heard quite different. Every single person I've talked to about W7 says it's much better and much less cpu cycle and RAM wasting than VISTA. It has far less driver problems than VISTA ever did. As a whole I got very positive feedback.

I haven't tried it myself, so I can't speak from own experience.

I'm going to stick with XP until I have to change...

I will be buying a new Laptop with two drives and lots of room now, so I'll probably at least try to dual boot XP and W7 at first to see how it runs.

remember to install XP first, then W7....the rule being install oldest first to avoid conflicts..

Yeah been there done that :D, But is that still the case on the separate drives?

yep....because windoze products detect each other...

just in case you don't know...windoze will automatically create a boot loader menu, i.e. there is no need for any special software...the last OS installed will be the first on the created list...

I suggest for ease of defragmentation you create partitions on each of the drive for the OS...I use 30GB partitions...you only need to defragment the OS and its associated softwares...so what I do is to either download to another partition, or move information out of the OS partition after downloading...it takes a hell of a lot less time to defragment 30GB as opposed to lets say 160 GB...

also, if you acquire a lot of archived materials its way faster to extract to another physical HDD....

For many years now (10+) I've been in habit of keeping all personal & sharing files off the OS drive. And where possible installing the apps to a partition of their own. Thus having static & dynamic drives & partitions. So if a drive fails .. I don't necessarily lose important info. The harder working drives likely to fail before the others. And on OSX there are other advantages with VM & scratch disk options. Some apps behave better on a drive/partition of their own (on mac at least). But then, some OSX apps demand to be installed on the system drive & might refuse to run/update (properly) unless situated there.

Edit: I guess I should mention I have 4 internal HDD's. Two of these are partitioned. Due to the way OSX works, I leave the OSX system drive to itself so it can make use of VM without the drive needing to spend energy on anything other than the system where possible. I divide the disks & partitions up according to purpose (7). Video work, p2p & audio & video work, system, iTunes, applications, static documents, & an alternate system drive. As suggested above, I've used a similar work approach for many years on my previous mac computers. A handful of firewire 400/800 external drives for backup. Apple's Time Machine seems extremely good for backup.

I've never had a dual boot on a single drive....

the first time I configured my system as a dual boot was ages ago, and I got some damned decent advice on how to do it...

the key advice, which still makes obvious sense, is to use 2 separate HDDs so that if a drive goes south you still have an active OS available...the same concept applies if the OS gets hosed, and too boot you can many times remotely (via the other OS) repair the damaged OS....the concept of partitioning is in my eyes simply for defragmentation concerns (as previously noted) as partitioning slightly reduces performance of the drive as the first step it has to do is locate the partition...

I back up all my important stuff on more than one external. I think my pics are actually in 3 places just in case of worst case scenario.

Last reformat I removed my second partition, so it's OS + other data on one now. This PC is complete junk and will be only used as an internal fileserver/P2P system after I get my new laptop. I don't mean performance wise. It's actually physically broken in several places. DVD-ROM is fried, Bluetooth is fried, right speaker sounds like WW3 started. Left shift key is not responding. I cut the blades of one of the internal fans instead of replacing it (Not the CPU fan). etc. etc.

Sleepless, Your computer sounds a like a puppy I used to have. Missing an ear and one leg. Went blind in one eye. Had real bad mange and was missing part of his tail. We called him "Lucky." Sure would like to see a pic of your comp. Sounds like a lot of love there just to keep it alive. Good luck

lol looks loke any other laptops. All the really wrong stuff is internal i.e. I would have to take it apart for anyone to see the damage. Actually it was lack of love that almost killed it. It was standing on a soft surface for a long time partially blocking the airflow. Also it's a Toshiba and I didn't clean the vents for about 2 years. Not a good idea on that brand.

yeah....right...that joke is as old as the moon and I seriously doubt you owned such an animal...

I think that dog belonged to L Grizzard

More Info about Windows 7.0
 

Guys

Here is an article published today about Win7, it seems that people are singing it's praises. However, I seem to remember that certain vested interest sang Vista's praises too.

Anyway, on with the story:

Why Microsoft can't afford Windows 7 to fail

BBC NEWS | Business | Why Microsoft can't afford Windows 7 to fail




UK Bob

Hope I can get an answer here. If not please tell me here where I might. I found a website called win7dl.com. It says free music downloads. Is it real? Is it only for windows7 os? Is it M$ answer to lala? Any help I might receive would be appreciated.

its a warez site linking you endlessly to other warez sites that are getting revenue for each click you make...

i.e., IMO, bogus....

Thank you. I had done several Google searches but got nothing about what the site was until today. As soon as I learned that it is in the Ukraine I suspected as much.

we have been running the new windows seven for about two months now.. I like the look, but as far as being faster.. only on start up and shut down, from what I've seen.
(JMO)

You know

I've been hearing that Win7 is just like XP, in terms of speed and stability (something that cannot be said of Vista). However, the advice I've been getting from guys who build their own systems is wait until SP1 comes out before upgrading to Win7.

But don't expect all your XP apps to work.


UK Bob

Actually I never find anything that couldn't work on Win7, I'm using it since Oct 09.

Hard disk manufacturers are finally dumping the 512 sector size and doing away with using system BIOS. Upgrading to one of the newer, faster drives is the only reason I see right now to switch to Win7.
I hope they also make the SMART drive tech work as promised.

Mad Hatter: Until you begin using software designed to run on Win7 you'll not likely see anything run faster (except the OS itself).

we bought the new machine to complete our data base and wireless network... most of the time, I'm on my older media center... the new system is 64 bit, while the other two machines are 32... so most software isn't compatible. But as for the os.. its great, again love the look.