How many illegal immigrants are in the United States, that would depend on who we ask.

While the majority of illegal immigrants continue to remain in the United States without permission from the government.

In the United States illegal immigrants enter this country and work illegally without a Visa or Green Card.

More illegal immigrants are being force to show proff of their citizenship in America, now that the state of Arizona has crackdown on illegal immigrants.

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chain em up and send them packing....I'm tired of competing with illegals who can work for less because they aren't paying taxes...

I'll go one step further...populate the Colorado River with fresh water sharks and toss em back in and let them try to swim back where they came from....

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You know, the only non immigrants in America are the Native Americans.

ummm....yeah...

and right back at you, the only natives to your island were long ago exterminated by the Saxons...

why not stay on the exact subject as opposed to blurring it with rather inane concepts...the USA was founded by English speaking people who wrote the Declaration of Independence, The Constitution and the Bill of Rights in ENGLISH...

the subject is ILLEGAL immigrants...now if you are breaking the law are you most likely going to bother paying self employment taxes for your earnings???...NO, and that is plain and simple UNFAIR competition to the legal residents who have the logical fear of the IRS and do pay their taxes...

lets do a simple comparison...an illegal who can earn a wage of $18/hr being a carpenter and not pay taxes can live the same lifestyle as a resident earning $25/hr and pays his/her taxes...that isn't fair competition...simple math that even a blind man can see...

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We've had a similar issue over here for many years on a smaller scale obviously. Unscrupulous employers who know the staff do not have work permits & they are under paying. In some cases below the award national minimum wage. And in some cases, the employers have actually been involved in obtaining the persons from overseas to work illegally over here. There are strict guidelines for employers to follow. Unless it's a job area that is known to have a shortage of skilled staff, it is difficult for employers to obtain work permits for overseas persons. Plus they must guarantee various things such as wage amount, work benefits, etc. Illegally obtaining overseas workers means many of those work awards such as holiday pay, sick leave, requirements about relieving staff, etc. go out the window. Such illegal workers have no rights, because if they speak up, they get sent home.

Agree w/Peerless 100%.

On another note, take a look at the disrespect they have for OUR country. This is only a few hundred miles from where I live here in AZ.

Wonder why AZ has had enough? And this is nothing compared to what we have to put up with on a daily basis.


YouTube - Recent pictures of our ONCE beautiful sonoran desert

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Look guys

I'm not going to get caught up in American (or Australian) politics or domestic issues because people can become emotional and irrational.

However, I will say that I know that most illegals are very desperate people trying to escape from poverty, crime and, in some cases, war. These people are then in turn exploited by human traffickers, organised criminals and unscrupulous employers.

So, rather than hating desperate people, go after the organised criminals and ruthless, tax dodging employers that make all this possible. Because without them, profiting from human misery, you would not have an "illegal immigration" problem.



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I agree totally. And there are reasonable punishments if employers here get caught which may slide from heavy fines to jail terms

I forgot to mention in my last post, this is of course an issue that occurs in many countries.

And I also agree, the illegal workers themselves are desperate people, from poverty lands or places where things are not stable.

I guess in places like europe & USA it's easier to 'walk' across the border somehow. Whereas here we have lots of 'well trained' sharks that protect our shores rofl (The White Pointers have a special delicacy for those that drift their way.) JK of course. Since illegal workers here fly in. Different to some of the illegal migrants who pay people-smugglers to boat them in from Indonesia after they've usually flown across there.

perhaps if the illegals from Mexico stayed where they were they would solve their own problems (instead of stealing my work) and do what the Egyptians are doing right now...hold no illusions, Mexico is corrupt as all hell...they talk about their 'rights' to illegally emigrate to here, yet look at how they treat illegal immigration into their country...seriously, take a look...

all of this talk of really enforcing the laws THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE BOOKS is a complete joke...if we (read the corrupt politicians owned by big business) wanted to stop it, it would be damned easy...just as if we really wanted to stop the drug trafficking it would be real easy...simply declare REAL war and ELIMINATE the problem

about all the current administration wants to do is to offer amnesty to those here illegally to get their votes in the next election cycle...hahahahahah....they might as well pack their bags now because they are going out with their hats ripped off of their heads (and they may be lucky to keep their heads)

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While I agree with illegal workers being a big problem, I have to say, that the second link posted by Remoc is a shining example of US propaganda.

I wonder if the maker doesn't see illegal immigration as a big enough problem, because he makes damn sure to chain together Illegals and DRUG SMUGGLERS every chance he/she gets.

P.S. the way to counter them is just to be so much better than they are at everything you do in your field of work. That's what I do.