Gnutella Forums  

Go Back   Gnutella Forums > Current Gnutella Client Forums > LimeWire+WireShare (Cross-platform) > Technical Support > Connection Problems
Register FAQ The Twelve Commandments Members List Calendar Arcade Find the Best VPN Today's Posts

Connection Problems Problems getting the LimeWire or WireShare program connecting to the Gnutella network. (not about connecting to files, that is a Download/Upload Problems section issue.) Please supply system details as described in the forum rules.
Start here Suggestions to help you get connected, * try here first *, then see below (click on 'this' blue link)

Did you FORGET something BEFORE you posted? If you post in this section you MUST provide these details: System details - help us to help you (click on 'this' blue link), else do not be surprised if your posting is ignored :)


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old March 18th, 2003
blabla666
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default 3 instead of 6 connections

In the connections tab I have set to hold about 6 connections but Limewire holds only 3 connections. I have to write a "6" again into the little text field (where the 6 is already) and THEN Limewire connects with 6 hosts.

I restarted Limewire a few times but it has no effect on the problem.

I use Limewire 2.8.6, Java 1.4, Linux.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old March 18th, 2003
Distinguished Member
 
Join Date: September 21st, 2002
Location: Aachen
Posts: 733
trap_jaw is flying high
Default

That behaviour is intended because the number of ultrapeer connections should not be set to a value greater than 3 by default.
__________________
Morgens ess ich Cornflakes und abends ess ich Brot
Und wenn ich lang genug gelebt hab, dann sterb ich und bin tot

--Fischmob
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old April 3rd, 2003
Novicius
 
Join Date: April 26th, 2002
Location: Durham NC
Posts: 4
vastator is flying high
Thumbs down 6 connections down to 3

I realize that the number of connections should be 3 but to disable the ability to go higher is kinda lame. It was there before and now they take it out altogether? Adding in additional connections was about the only way for me to get any decent search results. That and if do a search with 3 and then again with 6 the result set was much better. There were a number of times that 3 would return _nothing_ and 6 would return _something.

Also the the total files goes up to 800M for me at 6 and < 120 with 3 connections. So yea the return set is low if at three.

Bottom line, I disagree with taking it out. I wish I knew that before I upgraded otherwise I would not have done it. Now it is a useless tool.

I USED to be a paying customer......
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old April 3rd, 2003
Distinguished Member
 
Join Date: September 21st, 2002
Location: Aachen
Posts: 733
trap_jaw is flying high
Default

The idea was, that if all leafs have 3 connections, you could search a lot more leafs although searching the same number of ultrapeers.

In addition LimeWire is increasing the number of intra-ultrapeer connections to 15, so you should already see more results than before.

The number of results returned by an ultrapeer is limited now. The more exact your search is, the more ultrapeers the search will effectively reach. Searching for "eminem" should not return you more than 300-400 results, but searching for "eminem song title" could easily return 150-200 results for one song alone.
__________________
Morgens ess ich Cornflakes und abends ess ich Brot
Und wenn ich lang genug gelebt hab, dann sterb ich und bin tot

--Fischmob
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old April 7th, 2003
Novicius
 
Join Date: April 7th, 2003
Location: Colorado USA
Posts: 3
irshgem is flying high
Thumbs down I agree

I get much less search results than before. I don't know that it is worth the time using!...(I am using 2.9.8 Pro)
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old April 8th, 2003
Novicius
 
Join Date: April 26th, 2002
Location: Durham NC
Posts: 4
vastator is flying high
Unhappy same here

Same here, I took two machines, one running 2.9.8 and the other running an earlier version. Earlier version comes back with 30-40% more results. I like the program a lot but after this connection reduction thing, I doub't Ill continue with it.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old April 8th, 2003
Distinguished Member
 
Join Date: September 21st, 2002
Location: Aachen
Posts: 733
trap_jaw is flying high
Default

The number of results returned by LimeWire ultrapeers have been limited to about 80 per ultrapeer and search. However it is very likely that a search will return more results if it is really popular.
__________________
Morgens ess ich Cornflakes und abends ess ich Brot
Und wenn ich lang genug gelebt hab, dann sterb ich und bin tot

--Fischmob
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old April 8th, 2003
Novicius
 
Join Date: April 26th, 2002
Location: Durham NC
Posts: 4
vastator is flying high
Unhappy the keyword "if"

The operative word "if" is the key here. One of limewires greatest attrations was the ability to find the "not so popular" items that are out there. Yea the "wishlist" did this to some degree but I usually kept the setting on 3 connections unless I was trying to find something that was indeed hard to find. I found that I had a higher chance of finding it with 6 connections and letting it sit for 30 minutes so that the number of files it can see goes up. This greatly increased the possibility of find the "rare ones".

I hear you on the connection improvement but tests says otherwise. One machine at 3 connections only show on average ~800M of files where as the earlier version running at the same time on a different machine with 6 connections found 2.4G of files.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old April 8th, 2003
Distinguished Member
 
Join Date: September 21st, 2002
Location: Aachen
Posts: 733
trap_jaw is flying high
Default

I don't think it makes much sense to argue with you about it, but let me tell you this much. Increasing the number of leaf connections from 3 to 6 increases your search horizon only by some 30%-50% because each of the hosts you are connected to will probably search the same set of hosts.

The reason searches would return more results was that the pre 2.9.x network was so overloaded that many searches would be dropped before they could reach the whole reachable network. With more connections the probability of one search surviving long enough to return more results was just a little greater.
Since LimeWire has reduced the traffic and the number of dropped searches, there is no need to increase the number of connections anymore because you will always be stuck with the same set of searchable ultrapeers +/- a few dozens.
__________________
Morgens ess ich Cornflakes und abends ess ich Brot
Und wenn ich lang genug gelebt hab, dann sterb ich und bin tot

--Fischmob
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old April 9th, 2003
cadman
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Angry

So why can't we find anything......
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Connections PHAZERKID2 Connection Problems 1 August 27th, 2003 12:42 AM
Too Many Connections! Spitz Connection Problems 4 August 26th, 2003 11:53 PM
connections Unregistered General Windows Support 1 May 27th, 2002 08:04 PM
Too many connections Unregistered Download/Upload Problems 1 May 8th, 2002 12:22 AM
NO connections at all :( mikropu General Discussion 1 January 20th, 2002 07:55 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.

Copyright © 2020 Gnutella Forums.
All Rights Reserved.