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generik777 September 25th, 2006 04:17 PM

Can't connect, All ports forwarded, and opened.
 
I have tried everything for several weeks now to try and get my limewire to connect and nothing seems to help. It worked fine for several years until about 2 weeks ago. I have called my ISP and confirmed that they are not blocking it, In fact the tech I spoke said he used it himself at home. I have forwarded all ports with my router. I even turned off all firewalls and antivirus programs and connected my laptop directly to the internet (bypassing the router) and it still would not connect. What could the problem be? Could it be a java problem, I have the latest version. I have completely unistalled and re-installed limewire several limes to no avail. Any suggesstions appreciated.

foolofthehill September 25th, 2006 10:18 PM

Did you check whether the manual forwarded port is the same number as the listening port? (LW>Tools>Options>Advanced>Firewall)
Did you also add the necessary numbers at your router website?

Maybe deleteing the LW preference folder for a start will have an effect. Read here on how to do this (Point #2 & 3 in Fixes for Limewire)
http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=36420
:Smilywais:

generik777 September 26th, 2006 02:55 PM

Yes I have done all of that, and nothing seems to fix it.

Sleepless September 26th, 2006 03:34 PM

Do you by any chance have any old installers.

You could try reverting back to an old version to see if it helps

generik777 September 26th, 2006 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleepless
Do you by any chance have any old installers.

You could try reverting back to an old version to see if it helps

No I don't, But the problem first occured with the old version of PRO that I had. So I uninstalled it and installed the new basic version. But that didn't change anything.

Sleepless September 26th, 2006 07:01 PM

Could you tell us what settings and numbers you use in Limewire

Tools>options>Advanced>Firewall Config

and also if you get no connect at all. (Look at your connections) do you see UltraPeers trying to connect nut changing all the time or do you see nothing at all.

generik777 September 29th, 2006 07:33 PM

I Have it on UPnP right now and it has 36591 as the listening port. But I have tried doing manual to and that does not help anything. For manual I have tried several different ports. Nothings works. And as for if it connects at all or not, when the problem first started it would connect for a few seconds and then quit. Now it just doesnt connect at all.

Sleepless September 29th, 2006 08:41 PM

Sounds strange. If you are absolutely sure that nothing is blocking Limewire on your end, then try scanning your computer for malware, and after that do a clean install of both java and limewire. Use the offline installers for both.

When uninstalling Limewire use the Start>Programs>Limewire>uninstall and then do a search for Limewire afterwards and delete everything except your downloads. If you keep your downloads in the default shared folder then move it somewhere so it isn't registered by Limewire on the new install. Delete the incomplete folder as well.

Then after removing Java as well, reboot your computer and scan your registry for entries left behind by either program and delete them. Reboot after doing this. (note: remember to make a back up just in case you delete some entry you shouldn't have)

If you do not have a registry cleaner then try this one: (By the way this little program is quite good for many other things as well)

http://www.ccleaner.com/

Now download Java and Limewire. For Java try this one Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 Update 9 (Remember offline installers for both)

http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp

www.limewire.com

Install Java first and then reboot before installing Limewire

If this still does not work then I would seriously start thinking about calling your ISP's help desk again.

BTW I would not keep running Limewire unprotected. When you get it back up and running start adding all your security. Firewall, antivirus and router back into the mix.

generik777 September 30th, 2006 10:22 AM

Actually I have already reinstalled both java and limewire several times. And as for the malware I have scanned my computer several times with multiple programs, I do this on a regular basis. One more thing I guess I forgot to mention is that I know this is not a problem with the computer itself, the reason being that all of the computers on my network started having this problem at the same time. This makes me think that it is either a problem with the router or the ISP. I don't see how it could be the router since I have done everything with it to make it accept limewire. And like I said earlier I even bypassed the router once and connected directly to the modem and the problem still existed. This is why I am almost confident that it is a problem with the ISP, but they insist that they do not filter or block anything from running. I even specifically asked about limewire and the gnutella network and they said no they do not block that or anything else. I'm getting so frustrated by this.:bangh:

Sleepless September 30th, 2006 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by generik777
I have tried everything for several weeks now to try and get my limewire to connect and nothing seems to help. It worked fine for several years until about 2 weeks ago. I have called my ISP and confirmed that they are not blocking it, In fact the tech I spoke said he used it himself at home.

I suspect your ISP as well, but the thing that throws me abit is what you said above about the ISP tech using Limewire with no problems.

Maybe I am just naive in thinking that your ISP wouldn't flat out lie to you. I must admit that the more this thread goes on, the more I think that's the case here, because you seem to know your way around a computer.

There is one more thing to consider here. Before Limewire stopped working, were you by any chance doing some heavy down/uploading, or what your ISP might consider heavy. ISP's have no problem blocking single users for what they see as extensive use. Some also concentrate more on uploading than downloading, so if you were sharing at full speed 24/7 then that might just be the case.

generik777 September 30th, 2006 10:38 AM

Either that or the tech support is just really dumb. I want to switch to a new ISP but the only cable internet provider in my area will not let you subscibe to their internet without subscribing to their cable TV also. And since I have Dish that is not an option. And all the DSL servers in my area say you have to subscribe to their telephone service. So I am stuck with who I have. Another thing that I forgot to mention is that my uncle who also has the same ISP started having this same problem the same time I did. I told this to my ISP when I contacted them, but they still insisted that it could be on their end.

Sleepless September 30th, 2006 11:46 AM

Try calling them again. Be sure to keep pushing for answers, Don't let them sweettalk you and make sure to let them know that you know exactly what you have tried. Be as technically savvy as possible when explaining, then you will almost certainly get an answer, or maybe even some advice on how to get around the problem. Keep google handy while you do it just incase they try to confuse you with some internet packet filtering blah blah blah etc. mumble jumble. And write down anything that you might use against them later if you get stuck :wink:

I did that once btw :D The tech I spoke to had to redirect me to the same tech I had spoken to before :dance:

This was torrent and router related BTW not Limewire

generik777 September 30th, 2006 02:29 PM

Well, I would but my ISP sucks. They have no tech support available on the weekends. But I did write them an E-mail (which they will get monday) explaining what all I have tried and that I have narrowed the problem down to being on their end not mine. Hopefully they will dig a little deeper and figure something out. I also told them that if I cannot get this problem fixed soon I will switch back to my old cable Internet provider, which would suck cause I would have to pay an extra 10-15 dollars for basic cable TV also which I would never even watch. But I guess it would be worth it if I could get limewire back.

Sleepless September 30th, 2006 02:55 PM

If you do then make absolutely sure that they do not block Limewire also

PyroDude September 30th, 2006 09:26 PM

In the same boat....
 
I have the exact same problem as this guy, and i've also tried everything like him and I know my ISP don't block Limewire. So I'm going to suggest a possible Gnutella problem that only affects some people? (In my theory this may only affect Windows XP Home Edition SP2 users, my friend with his Mac on dial-up claims he has extremely abnormally fast downloads currently.)

Sleepless September 30th, 2006 09:59 PM

All I can tell you is that I use Windows XP Home edition with Service Pack 2.

I had some trouble with the first 4.10 versions. Worked perfectly when I updated to v4.10.9 and ever since. I have been using v4.10.9 (both basic and Pro) , v4.12.3 Pro and now v4.12.6 Basic. This is also on two different computers with different hardware and setup, but with the same connection. The high CPU usage problem that I kept getting with the earlier versions were gone by v4.10.9

While I (through tests) believe the search might have some small bug (probably Java related. Hangs a bit sometimes) I have noticed no problems with connecting or downloading.

I BTW still have v4.9.37 on a different computer, and while it doesn't connect that easy anymore, when it finally connects, it is still as good as the new versions. Also same operating system on that one, but different hardware and some software.

generik777 September 30th, 2006 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleepless
If you do then make absolutely sure that they do not block Limewire also

I already know they don't because I used to subscribe to them, Also my brother currently subscribes to them and his limewire is working flawlessly. But that would definately suck if I changed back to them and payed extra just to find out they blocked it.

generik777 September 30th, 2006 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleepless
There is one more thing to consider here. Before Limewire stopped working, were you by any chance doing some heavy down/uploading, or what your ISP might consider heavy. ISP's have no problem blocking single users for what they see as extensive use. Some also concentrate more on uploading than downloading, so if you were sharing at full speed 24/7 then that might just be the case.

I never noticed that you wrote this part before. The answer to this question is yes. About a week before this problem started occuring I started using Azureus (A BitTorrent client) and was often leaving it running several days straight. This obviously does a large amount of downloading and uploading. But the thing is, Azureus still works fine. Would they not have blocked it instead of limewire?

Sleepless September 30th, 2006 11:58 PM

The big difference between Azureus and Limewire is the advanced packet encryption methods that client like Azureus are capable of.

It is very possible that a ISP trying to block a user from using P2P will not be able to block Azureus. Don't get me wrong, some are very capable of doing so, but this would take pretty advanced and newer "shaping" methods. Also Azureus and uTorrent developers are constantly making improvements on their encryption methods. Limewire on the other hand does no such thing.

One reason for this in that LimewireLLC is US based, meaning that they are not untouchable, while the open source multinational free BitTorrent developing and distribution is not bound to any country.

These programs are so different. Like day and night. Limewire will be releasing a client that will support torrents in the near future. This may change things encryption wise.

As you probably know, Limewire has been sued by a collection of major recording industries and has counter sued them. Unlike the other P2P clients that have gone bye bye in the last few years LimewireLLC has the power to put up a fight instead of crumbling into some settlement that would ultimately be the end of it.

This is in large part because of the money LimewirePro has brought in but also due to other ways of making revenue. I think the Limewire client is not their only project (read that somewhere)


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