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howyoudoin956 December 20th, 2001 12:27 PM

ultrapeer problems (limewire 2)
 
alright well with limewire 2 and this ultrapeer thing, i only get 1 connection and its uploading only. I disabled ultrapeer and it still doesn't work i have it assigned to 5 connections and all i am getting is one upload (note: under protocol is says ultrapeer so i'm guessing it has to do with that) any ideas?
Josiah

nabreu December 20th, 2001 08:28 PM

Ultrapeer problems...
 
I am having the same problems. I was running v1.7 forever without any problems, then I paid for Pro and I can't find anything anymore!!! I want my 8 connections back or I want my old version back and a refund.

Nelson

Unregistered December 20th, 2001 09:46 PM

Connection problems
 
I'm also having a proble remaining connected with more than 1 host. If I turn auto connect off and manually enter IP addresses I can sometimes establish a connection on my Mac. I'm glad I kept LW 1.7.

nabreu December 20th, 2001 11:04 PM

i wish i had... now i can't find it anywhere... does anyone still have the installer for 1.7 for the windows????

Roswell December 21st, 2001 04:25 AM

Ultrapeer thing!!
 
Aloha!!

Still got the same problem i can`t connect more than one host!!(ultrapeer)

Got the Limewire for Mac OS X. In the classic version 1.7 .... it worked

perfect on the 9 platform but X HORROR. How can I stop this ULTRAPEER

thing. In the options I´ve tried to disable it but still the application uses

this Ultrapeer thing. (GGGGRRRRRRRRRRHHHHHH)

Please Help Me "!!!!!!!!

or should I use EDonkey2000 for mac os X??

Unregistered December 21st, 2001 08:17 AM

crappy limewire
 
wrf, I have this problem too. I ahve one win2k machine running the old client and mac os x next it running version 2. I can download almost nothing and in the connection tab I only have one connection and if I enable monitor searches, I got a search every 5 minutes on my machine, but on my win2k box, i have at leat 10 connections and I have hundres of searches on my box a minute whats up with this? Can someone help? So far, limewire sux. First its free, then they ad ads, now they are trying to et people to pay for it. You poeple please realize that in free open souce software, you don't make a little money, you make zero, so if you are going to give away free software, think about it first instead of releasing free first then adding ads and selling a different version. Where did you think you were going to get paid from? The magic money tree? If you can't afford to develop free software then don't even bother trying, sell it right off the bat. Sorry everyone, im just ****ed with limewire now. Also, the speed of your program is unbearable, especially on OS X.

nabreu December 21st, 2001 08:57 AM

EVERYONE WHO HAS THIS PROBLEM PLEASE POST HERE AND IN ADDITION PLEASE E-MAIL info@limewire.com and bugs@limewire.com

LETS MAKE THEM AWARE!!!!

Unregistered December 21st, 2001 10:04 AM

Only One Host Here too!
 
Ever since upgrading to 2.02 the software has become worthless.

Please fix this!

Unregistered December 21st, 2001 12:39 PM

UltraPeer - another 1 connex only
 
Add another one to the count--EvilPeer only allows one connection--period. OS X + LimeWire 2.02.

nabreu December 21st, 2001 01:10 PM

LimeWire may have come through with a solution, but it is only effective if you have at least cable. If it looks like it is working I will post it here tommorow.

efield December 21st, 2001 10:57 PM

Re: crappy limewire
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
... I can download almost nothing and in the connection tab I only have one connection and if I enable monitor searches, I got a search every 5 minutes on my machine, but on my win2k box, i have at leat 10 connections and I have hundres of searches on my box a minute whats up with this? ...
When you are connected to an ultrapeer search queries are only sent to you if you may have a matching file to upload. By sending only queries that are more likely to match, more bandwidth is available to transfer files.

GregBildson December 21st, 2001 11:05 PM

Your Ultrapeer is doing a lot of work for you so you are suppose to only have one connection. Ultrapeers hold up to 50 connections so if your ultrapeer is well connected to other ultrapeers, you should get great results.

Thanks
-greg

Unregistered December 22nd, 2001 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GregBildson
Your Ultrapeer is doing a lot of work for you so you are suppose to only have one connection. Ultrapeers hold up to 50 connections so if your ultrapeer is well connected to other ultrapeers, you should get great results.

Thanks
-greg

Seriously, my results are horrible. on the win2k box, i do a query and get a hundred hits. On the OS X box with 2.x , I got zero results every time. It is driving me crazy, because I need the software for the 2.x box, not my win2k box with 1.8

cg1h3r0 December 22nd, 2001 04:11 AM

uLTRAPEER : step in the wrong direction
 
Hi,

if limewire relies on this proprietary ultrapeer idea, it is
just a question of time, it will become incompatible with
the rest of the gnutella world.

AND:
I want to tweak my system myself, and don't rely
on some semi-smart ultrapeer architecture I can't
influence.

maphead December 22nd, 2001 01:50 PM

Pro2 paid sucking - w/ ultrapeer disabled
 
Six months free upgrades for six bucks. Hmmm - I was getting connected for $0 on 1.8b on WIN2K.

What gives? I'll gladly help test some improvements but would really like the LIMEYS to tell us WHAT TO DO?
Come on guys - what is up with your version2?

radellaf December 22nd, 2001 04:54 PM

One connection only
 
Same thing here, always ends up with only one connection. iMac DV 400, OS 9.2.2, Bellsouth DSL.
I guess I'll go back to 1.7, but sure sucks to have paid $6 for something nonfunctional.

rbye December 22nd, 2001 09:09 PM

Ultrapeer Sucks!
 
Give me back my free version that worked. As far as I am concerned I was just screwed out of $6. Usually when you buy a program it works better and has more features! Looks to me like by paying we had features removed instead of added. I want to control the number of connections I have.

Unregistered December 23rd, 2001 12:20 AM

Pop...

Another LimeWire Pro user getting screwed with the ultrapeer thingie.

jclarke December 23rd, 2001 10:23 AM

New paid version doesn't work
 
Updated to the new paid-for version (true, a measly 6 bucks) and now get only one host. I have a hard time downloading anything because so little is available with search. Also I have 580 files to share (mp3 and wav) and when I monitor uploads practically nothing gets uploaded. I have gone through the options many times. Everything is set up right. So could it be the software? Anyone have any suggestions?

JClarke

rbye December 23rd, 2001 10:34 AM

About that $6
 
If they don't fix it in a timely fashion, I suggest we all deny the charge on our credit cards. May that will get their attention.:D

Unregistered December 23rd, 2001 10:37 AM

http://www3.limewire.com/download/

Went back to 1.8c...connected on the first try to 500+ hosts.

Will the folks who purchased Pro be informed by e-mail when these connection issues are cleared up?

Unregistered December 23rd, 2001 11:09 AM

Whaha.. 500?? I'm @Home Cable... usually 2000-3000 !

Anyway... this ultrapeery thingy aint working for me either...

Unregistered December 23rd, 2001 03:30 PM

This really yanks my crank too....just got Limewire, connected to one host, wont find any search results....so far this is pathetic.

jim_julian December 23rd, 2001 04:07 PM

Same prob that you all are reporting ... Mac 10.1.2 ... one Ultrapeer (can't seem to disable it) ... now I'm seeing tens of megabytes of data versus terabytes on previous versions of Limewire. I started a thread a few days ago over in the Limewire Mac OSX forum ... no response there either. The problem is also being discussed in various platform fora all around the web. A very bad rep is rapidly building for what heretofore has been an excellent product.

:(

zappy December 24th, 2001 06:43 AM

Regarding USD 6,-: Why didn't you people test the free version of Limewire2 before giving away money? I am happily testing Limewire2 for free (with ads) on Mac OS X.

Regarding Ultrapeer: I usually about 5 Ultrapeer hosts. My search result are about the same as with Limewire 1.x (ymmv). Maybe we need to wait a little until there are more Ultrapeer hosts. Version 2 must spread first.

maphead December 24th, 2001 07:21 AM

money not the issue
 
Quote:

Originally posted by zappy
Regarding USD 6,-: Why didn't you people test the free version of Limewire2 before giving away money? I am happily testing Limewire2 for free (with ads) on Mac OS X.

Regarding Ultrapeer: I usually about 5 Ultrapeer hosts. My search result are about the same as with Limewire 1.x (ymmv). Maybe we need to wait a little until there are more Ultrapeer hosts. Version 2 must spread first.

Zappy -
Many of the posters here are generally happy LW users. Or we were until 2 came out of the gates like a lame horse.
The reason I was willing to 'sign-up' to give my money away is because the track record WAS good. The six dollars was less about the the new, improved version than it was a vote of satisfaction with the overall product. I expect that the Limeys will get their horse up and running again. Perhaps the app will be faster and stronger than before.
Your point about promulgating version 2 is well taken - and it is a sound reason to allow 2.x to run on at least one of my machines, albeit with lowered expectations.
However, I am more concerned about the lack of response from the Limeys. Where are they with info about the app? Many users would like to know what the problem or perceived problem is.
Further - there seems to be feeling of loss about features. The Limeys have not kept up with their documentation. Perhaps like other development processes- the technical writing and communication aspect about the product was sacrificed or never made part of the entire process.

So make that six dollars and 2 cents invested.

maphead

Unregistered December 30th, 2001 10:10 AM

Re: uLTRAPEER : step in the wrong direction
 
Quote:

Originally posted by cg1h3r0

if limewire relies on this proprietary ultrapeer idea, it is
just a question of time, it will become incompatible with
the rest of the gnutella world.

Ultrapeer is incompatible with Gnutella!
All user who only use a ultrapeer-connection lock out other clients!

Unregistered December 30th, 2001 11:17 AM

I just bought (thank god it was only $6) Limewire 2.

I heard about "swarming"and thought wellfinally they have worked out the bugs!!

I did the same thing with 1.7 "upgrading" to the new and improved 1.8,what a mess 1.8 was the worst version of Limewire you have ever made!! ............ UNTIL NOW


Because now you have introduced "ultrabeeper" now this is the worst Limwire ever!

No more multiple connections, are you out of your mind?

No more looking at the bottom of the screen to see how many connections are up and running,why , why , why take that best feature away.

I love Limewire when it works, you guys want to rock the world with Limwire and you do this stupid stuff!!!

Limewire 1.7 was the best, thank god I found a copy of it .

Do you guys read your forum postings, I am not alone!!

Please tell us you are listening and not like so many companies just go in your own direction without listening to your loyal users. Please let us know your "feel our pain" and corrections and adjustments are on its way.

I have thrown away Limewire 1.8 and returned to limewire 1.7, NOW you have forced me to throw away my $6 and Limewire 2.0 and I will be using 1.7 again. Why are you going backwords on this potentially awesome product.

My son has friends who have PC's ( I have a Mac) and some of the other file sharing software they are using I hear is blown away fast and secure steady connections.

Please help us!!

Unregistered December 30th, 2001 12:15 PM

Ultrapeering
 
The idea of Ultrapeering seems to be a good one. Unfortunately they implemented it badly.
I think they could fix it rather easily however. Currently if someone is an ultrapeer it seems like there is no requirement for the ultrapeers outgoing connections. It should not allow any clients/leafs to connect until it has a minimum number of stable outgoing connections. This is what would really determine how many results you get back from a search. If you connect to a ultrapeer that has one connected outgoing connection and 1 other leaf on it, you'll probably get almost nothing back from your searches. If, however, you connect to an ultrapeer with 15 stable outgoing connections to other ultrapeers you'll probably get better results than you would have ever gotten before. I believe at this point a majority of the ultrapeers are not connected well enough to be used. This is just theory though since the statistics you see are now meaningless and reflect only older clients. If the statistics were working and valid this could be verified.
In the mean time they should allow us to connect to multiple ultrapeers as clients. Or do what Xolox did and periodically re-search your searches adding new results to your list. This way if you connect to a badly connected ultrapeer your results will get better as it's connections get better.

Unregistered January 1st, 2002 08:30 PM

To clear up some confusion about Ultrapeer....
 
Check this thread....

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showt...p?threadid=6292

It seems alota people don't quite get the idea yet.

Unregistered January 1st, 2002 08:37 PM

my duh, cut and pasted the post and didn't notice the url got snipped. this one works.

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...?threadid=6292

Unregistered January 2nd, 2002 11:21 AM

Re: To clear up some confusion about Ultrapeer....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
Check this thread....

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showt...p?threadid=6292

It seems alota people don't quite get the idea yet.

Can you post a WHOLE url?
Thanks

Unregistered January 2nd, 2002 11:22 AM

Re: Re: To clear up some confusion about Ultrapeer....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered


Can you post a WHOLE url?
Thanks

AND MY "duh self" did not look to the end of the posts!
THanks for the fix

Unregistered January 2nd, 2002 03:10 PM

I also paid for 2.0 Pro and cannot get ultrapeer to disable although I have checked the box to disable. My connections are no good. I have reverted to version 1.7 while I wait for a solution. I assume once they get their Trojan horse problem behind them they will fix this. I am truely disgusted. I can't understand how this was ever released.

maphead January 2nd, 2002 03:44 PM

Any Limes want to respond?
 
I get that we may need to employ the LW2 to make good the host connections - but after trying all weekend [a long wkend at that] to get satisfaction from LW2 I, too, reverted to 1.8.

I hear that as users-
WE want to SEE our connections;
WE want to look at incoming search requests;
WE want to re-search terms and
WE expect the aspplication to attempt to get more and better connections all around.

WOULD the LIMEYS please respond to these LW2, LW2 Pro [read:PAID] issues?
OR at least - kindly direct us to a forum where you have dealt with these issues?

maphead, a paid supporter of ya'll getting right!

nickdude January 3rd, 2002 12:04 AM

same problem
 
I bought the thing and am having the same problem. The selection now sucks for stuff to download.

TruStarwarrior January 3rd, 2002 06:04 PM

UltraPeers work in a different sense than the classic Gnutella model. You only want 1 connection to an UltraPeer if you are a client. Eventually, the search horizon will be much greater, as TTLs will reach an exponentially larger number of hosts.

Are you looking to disable UltraPeer capabilities because you are being swamped with Gnutella traffic? There is an option to disable the UltraPeer capability in the options menu. However, you will still be a client that connects to larger UltraPeer networks.

I will be happy to answer any other questions you many have, so ask away...
:-)

~TruStar~

P.S. UltraPeer does not lock out other clients. Other clients can still connect to other UltraPeer hosts. But this is a difficult time for Gnutella. The network is undergoing a restructuring, and the most frustrating times will occur during this time of transition. Hopefully, other clients will follow this new protocol. In the end, it will make gnutella better.
:-)

rbye January 3rd, 2002 07:07 PM

Ultrapeer
 
It would be nice to have some info from Limewire, seems like they don't care or want to respond to our concerns.

Makes you want to buy more software, doesn't it?

Unregistered January 4th, 2002 07:22 AM

TruStarwarrior, You don't get the picture. I don't care whether I have 1 connection or ten, as long as it WORKS. But it just doesn't, period. My LW2.0.4 connects to one Ultrapeer and after 1 hour I can search 6 hosts for 800 files. Amazing. When I start LW 1.8 on the same machine after 15 minutes I can search 1500 hosts for a gazillion files. So where's the benefit of moving to 2.x?

That's a bug NOT a feature so would someone please step forward and fix it? This thread has been running for two weeks now and still nobody at Limewire seems to realize that there IS a problem.

Johannes

Unregistered January 4th, 2002 09:08 AM

Very Bad...
 
Same problems. I'm switching software. You guys be sure to send out a memo when you change this horrible version.

rbye January 4th, 2002 10:40 AM

Ultrapeer
 
You pro ultrapeer advocates must be getting better search results than the rest of us. I have 2 machines connected at the same time one is 1.7 and the other 2.0. The same search will fill the screen on the 1.7 machine and give NO results with 2.0. In my opinion that SUCKS!

maphead January 4th, 2002 10:42 AM

Forwarded our msgs to the Limes
 
HI all -
I fwd'd my own msg to the moderators and I believe that is what prompted TruStarWarrior to post.
Unfortunately, as we can all see, s/he did not address our concerns about LW2, offering again some cryptic ultra-brite, (:D) ultra peer promises.

I've spent more for a shot of good booze - so I guess like all others who desire function over "innovation" I will use only the older version of LW, look for what I want and quit trying to let the Limeys know about concerns of shortcomings in their recent releases.

Anybody have a fun racing game that they can recommend? - I feel the need for speed, careening and a general revving up of my whole system after the plodding disappointment of LW2 "pro."


maphead

Unregistered January 5th, 2002 07:38 AM

Ultrapeer
 
I got the same problem!
@ startup there is about 20 hosts
And 3sec later i´ve only got one and it´s upload

I´m going to try 1.7!

Unregistered January 5th, 2002 08:01 AM

I also agree the new system is garbage. I want my old Limewire back not this piece of junk. I should have kept the old one. Looks like I will be switching to Morpheus. I took it off when this one was great but now this one is worthless.I only get one connection with worthless results. Example: I typed in Jimmy Hendrix and got ONE file. Purple Haze and the ip to it was red. Thanks Limewire.

TruStarwarrior January 5th, 2002 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
TruStarwarrior, You don't get the picture. I don't care whether I have 1 connection or ten, as long as it WORKS. But it just doesn't, period. My LW2.0.4 connects to one Ultrapeer and after 1 hour I can search 6 hosts for 800 files. Amazing. When I start LW 1.8 on the same machine after 15 minutes I can search 1500 hosts for a gazillion files. So where's the benefit of moving to 2.x?

That's a bug NOT a feature so would someone please step forward and fix it? This thread has been running for two weeks now and still nobody at Limewire seems to realize that there IS a problem.

Johannes

I'm a moderator, not a developer. I answered the question as best as I could. PM afisk if you would like to contact the developers directly.
:-)

howyoudoin956 January 5th, 2002 04:31 PM

well i started this thread on dec 20 and now its jan 5 and well i've gotten 0 answers from the developers and well the moderators aren't helping as well so i'm sticking with 1.8

Bobcat7774 January 6th, 2002 01:20 PM

connection problems
 
:mad: I can't get more than 3 hosts with 2.02 and nothing D/Ls in-tact. I've D/L'd 1.8 and it magically installs another 2.02; no good:o Where's our fix-it team :confused:

howyoudoin956 January 6th, 2002 04:26 PM

if u want to run 1.8 then you'll have to delete any limewire files (2.0) that were on your computer from before.

Unregistered January 6th, 2002 07:57 PM

i'd love to DL 1.8 again, but where is it? all the 2.x stuff was uninstalled, and deleted, and i DLd the "basic" version, but the same "ultrapeer"-1-connection problem remains...

Bobcat7774 January 6th, 2002 08:05 PM

1.8
 
:D Go to the limewire ftp site and change the address end from X.X to 1.8; I had to "save as" cuz it was text on screen but Stuff-it Expander gave me the Installer and all is calm on my battlefield -- 1.8 and still rockin!!!!!!


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