It is a given that when major changes are implemented in software that there are going to be problems. With thousands of people running any number of soft and hard configurations it's going to take awhile to sort out bugs and other problems related to implementing a protocol enhancement such as ultrapeer.
Rather than bitch about the fact that I haven't yet seen the advantage of the ultrapeer implementation I will level a few comments.
1) most gnutella users use limewire to get and share files. My experience is that the 2.0+ versions of limewire simply don't return as many hits for a given search as the older versions did.
2) I went looking for information on what was this new ultrapeer enhancement. There is nothing describing it's implementation or what its intended purpose is in any of the common FAQ or user documentation. If a programming group makes a signifigent change in a product like ultrapeer as an example, where the function of the software is as markedly changed as 2.0+ is, it would be to the benefit of the community as a whole to provide some information to the users about what the change is and why, as well as how it works.

If the implementation of the ultrapeer method is a step in the chain to making the gnutella net function better then thats great. But without some information as to the why and how this new connect method is superior to earlier implementations large numbers of folks are simply going to go find something they think functions properly.

Lets see some info on the limewire website about ultrapeer, how it works, what it is, and why it's better than previous implementations. The general public aren't programmers, they just want to fire up their client software, make a search and grab what their looking for. Frankly 2.0+ is disappointing in it's functionality, and without some clarification about what the new changes are suppose to improve, Limewire will only loose marketshare....

Unregistered,
Let me put your tiny mind to rest...
1) Yes, I often see the outside world.
2) I have more than kissed a girl mate, don't worry if ur jealous...
3) Your importance on the web is not governed by your processor, the fact that you imply that is just plain ironic.
It's sad really, I don't know about your's but my Processor has never crashed, normally just my OS.
4) Why would I wank over VB files?? Code doesn't do it for me, but again - I'm not sure about your ideals.

What I'm trying to say is that I don't need to get in a flame war with you about sexuality. Also, 'nerd' is a stereotypical term and I reckon you have a lot of balls to call someone a 'nerd' on a computing forum. Let's just stick to arguing our case about Limewire because that's what this thread is for (Also, I'm not so sure about what has got you thinking about sex when you read a computing post!) If you want to be aroused - just on over to http://live.slu.ts/ and check out my latest pictures of your mother... (Hey, I gotta get one in!)

I'm not against you complaining, I felt a hell of a lot like complaining when I first downloaded Limewire! If you have such interesting things to do - why are you on here complaining your **** off to no-one in particular? The way I see it you have 3 options:
1) Get off your **** and see if you can program something better - OR become a beta tester for Limewire.
2) Complain NICELY to the Limewire staff
or
3) Know your role and SHUT your mouth idiot!
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What a well thought post. The fact that you're 16 and have the intellect to post something like that is impressive.

I almost even feel guilty about bitching and moaning about limewire. After all, it is free (for me).

There had to be a reason limewire didn't clearly state the differences between older versions and the new one. I don't think many people would have "up"graded if that were the case (myself included).

But if it's for the greater good I'm willing to continue using the "new" version.

The ads don't seem to soak up any bandwidth (precious as that is for my 56k connection) so I can put up with them. But there should be an explanation of why it's ok to maintain only one connection when you request to maintain 3 (or any number other than 1 or 0) as long as the connection is to an "ultrapeer". I almost went to bearshare again I was so ****ed.

Now that I'm more informed, however, I think I'll leave this version of limewire on my system and pray for another timely upgrade release.

Thanks for the compliment on my post, I really appreciate it.
It's ok - you're entitled to be upset about this version of Limewire, many people are. I just wanted to let people know that their money wasn't so much of a purchase as it was a contribution to the future of thew Gnutella Network.

I fully 100% agree that bandwidth is very precious for a 56k connection (I have one too - hey, I can't complain - if my parents could afford more I would, but I wont ). One great benefit from 'Ultrapeer' for us analogue users is that you never have to shut off your connection to the network when downloading to get every extra bit of data per second and you never have your 'Clear To Send' light on your modem go out because of congestion.

I'm happy with the new advance because I sifted through some unpleasant, some abusive and some down right nasty posts for the information on Ultrapeer. I realize the bugs aren't all out of it yet, but I also realize that once Ultrapeer becomes standard - the network will function as well as (or better) than the Napster Network once did. I cannot wait for that day to come, but I guess I'll have to. In the mean time, I'm happy for the developers to do whatever they think is necessary to ensure the wellbeing of the network. I paid my 'donation/purchas' and no matter what, I will never ask for it back.

I'm not asking people to shut up about what is wrong with Limewire, I'm just begging them to be informed about it (Limewire Developers - that's where you come in to it!) and to try and be constructive about their criticism. As I said, Limewire (and the Gnutella Network) WILL get better, but only if WE let it...

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JM

Apparently - this is the deal with Ultrapeer:
When you connect to an Ultrapeer, it drops all of your other connections to reduce congestion and to assist your uploads/downloads by giving them extra bandwidth.
When you search the network, your search request goes to the ultrapeer and the ultrapeer does your searching for you, thus shielding you from the bulk of the traffic from the network (= good!)
The ultrapeer knows most of the files on your computer and only delivers search messages to your computer if it believes you have a file of use.
Ultrapeer is not fully perfected yet, it is merely an architecture that they have put out to try and reduce traffic (= better network health = good!). More updates to Ultrapeer will come with new releases of the software.
Many Gnutella products are starting to develop in accordance with the Ultrapeer Standard.
The Ultrapeer Design can only benifit us if we use it in it's earlier stages. If we don't give it a go, it may just disappear altogether and that would be a great loss as it would deprive the network of a great protocol.

Those are the facts as I have heard - I posted them here to save you sifting the posts for answers.

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JM

This thread is not getting anybody anywhere. The title of the thread is 'ignorant user', and this is just asking for trouble. This thread will only provoke flaming and insults if allowed to continue. This thread is now locked.