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trap_jaw December 8th, 2002 10:38 AM

I assume you would see "Limit Reached" messages in you upload window.

sonnet December 8th, 2002 10:43 AM

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I downloaded a total of 54 -130 files from your machine they were all destroyed upon completion of this test. Hope this helps. :)
Thanks for the tests, Lee. :) For some reason after crashing and several re-boots, and a re-install of the beta, Limewire appears to be running stably during this current session. It didn't show the total of 54-130 files and the names of the ones you uploaded. I believe that was while I had this current session in progress. I wonder if that was the session that crashed or even if the large number of uploads caused the crash. I can send logs if I know what logs to send that would be helpful to the developers. Unless it shows me what files people have uploaded, I do not know there have been uploads. :confused: Lee, ... maybe, if you'd be game on another day, perhaps we could try it during a "current" session so I can see that they do show up. Maybe that is what is confusing me. If uploads are occurring but they aren't being logged ... or perhaps it happened during that session that crashed, although you said you received the files in good shape.

I should point out Lee did these tests while I was running the new beta, not the 2.7 version I was running when I first posted in this thread. Lee; you are correct; I'm not squeezing any bandwidth; letting people have as much as they need as I don't need any right now. If I artificially "up" my cable connection to a T1, am I providing users with more bandwidth? I know that the slide goes up to "unlimited;" is that really the case, or will it cut off "cable" at a certain bandwidth by default?

Regarding search star results of 3 and 4 stars, is this independent of the connection type one has (T3 versus cable modem) and more dependent on the upload success rate of a given IP? Is it based on how my connection is performing at any given moment (queued uploads, busy slots, etc.)? I'm basing this conclusion on Lee's test results.

During this current session, it is now showing how many files I am sharing in green next to the green dot, whereas during previous sessions today it behaved inconsistently. I attempted to correct this by (a) re-installing the beta at one point this morning; I do not know if that affected it; (b) I also went in to my Sharing area and hit "apply" again after re-selecting all of my shared files. After that, I noticed the number next to the green dot re-appear. I had the window already wide, so it wasn't the window; it simply wasn't appearing. But what was appearing, across the top, was a file list of 11,000 files or larger, and growing as Limewire was connected longer, (I only left that session running a few minutes) which appeared to be the number shared across the Gnutella network I was on, not from my Mac, which shares 608 files.

Another inconsistency is that sometimes when Limewire opens, it won't stay at 6 connections but rapidly spawns a large number of Leaf node connections even though I have Ultrapeer in place. I do not know much about this, but my solution was to select all of them except the Ultrapeers and to kill them off. *shrug* This seemed to take me back to a normal 5 or 6 connections rather than having 30 incoming connections and one or two outgoing. This seems to vary randomly with each session.

My comments are that Limewire seems to behave differently/inconsistently from one session to the next; I can point out what occurs, but I do not know what causes it. I would be happy to send logs of anything that might be helpful to someone for beta testing purposes. Sometimes I appear to be getting hits and uploads during one session; while during another session there appears to be little or no activity. I cannot account for this nor the other indiscrepancies above.

I might suggest an automatic logging/crash report that emails it off to the developers similar to what Chimera has.

Thanks again, Lee, for helping me troubleshoot. If I run into problems again, I'll give you (or this forum) a shout. :) Keep up the great work, guys. :)

sonnet December 8th, 2002 11:07 AM

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appears that the maximum number of files that can be downloaded from a host at any given time is 6 any thing above this amount is give either an Upload limit reached on your side or queued on the remote users side. (this depends on maximum number of simultaneous downloads specified on the remote users host.)
Hmmm for the heck of it, I just changed my "Max Upload Slots" to 20. I wonder what this will do! :eek: Don't know if this will clog up my bandwidth or allow more people access. Currently there is no uploading activity going on whatsoever. No active uploads and nobody queued.

LeeWare December 8th, 2002 01:07 PM

Regarding Sonnets Observations
 
Sonnet,

1. Your welcome

2. In the library tab you will see column titled Uploads (x/y) where x is the number of successful uploads. where y is the number of incomplete or attempted uploads.



3. I think that your nodes crashed while I was attempting to download 600 x 4 files from you. (I had problems on my end with this. Normally no one would try this.)

4. Regarding results the rating system is based on serveral factors but all relate to a remote users ability to download from you.

5. Regarding the inconsistency you spoke of -- Tools/options/speed/ Disable Ultrapeer Capabilities (By default this is not set and you are acting as a Supernode / Ultrapeer which aggregates connections for other users. I sometime run as an ultrapeer or Supernode to help the network out. This mode of operations puts stress on your system resources and bandwidth.)


6. Regarding Search Star Results and Connections Speeds (You can fake your connection speed as most people do However the program color codes the connections so that I think- the speeds listed in black are probably forged and the connections listed in green are closer to the real rate.) Someone can comment on this if they have different information. Anyway, Connection speeds can be filtered by speed for searcher under /tools/options/Searching/Speed - So if I don't want to see modem users I can say

(Show Only Results of Cable/DSL Speed or Higher. )

These settings have nothing to do with your ability to send files out for instance, If you are on a T3 connection (44.xMbps) You can discourage people from downloading from you by making your connection appear as though you are a modem user. If any one did download from you they would discover that they are transferring files from the fastest modem that exist today :-) This is because they will receive the file as fast as they can pull it from you. This of course assuming that they themselves have a high-bandwidth connection which is slower than yours.

Hope this helps.

LeeWare December 8th, 2002 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by trap_jaw
I assume you would see "Limit Reached" messages in you upload window.
Thanks -- Now that you mention it I've seen this message before.

bink December 9th, 2002 08:25 PM

Just a data point:
 
In my "library" tab, all my uploads say 0/0. The number of hits changes, but the uploads column stays 0/0 even after I refresh.

Yet my uploads are actually working just fine! I've had a dozen people get stuff from me in the time I've been watching the Library tab and none of them show up.

Just thought this might be of use to the people who are worried about all those 0/0s.

sberlin December 9th, 2002 09:00 PM

this is very strange... i know all data info (uploads, hits, locations) will revert to 0/0, 0 & 0 when refresh is clicked, but they should be counting up info before that. what refresh does is rebuild your library -- so you shouldn't click it often at all.

are you sure a folder is selected in the tree portion of the library? make sure you select the folder you want to view, and then see what it says.. but don't click refresh, because that'll make everything 0 again.

i'm thinking that the button refresh should be reworded to rebuild... but that's a minor issue.

sonnet December 9th, 2002 11:05 PM

Yes, I can go to my library and see upload requests ... but they are hard to find because I have so many folders, I have to click each folder and then scroll down to view each file to see if it had any uploads. Therefore I still have no idea how many total uploads as there is no summary information.

It is possible I hit refresh, as the few I saw seemed like a low count compared with the number in the upload Monitor tab.

trap_jaw December 10th, 2002 03:14 AM

The summary information is in the statistics window. It counts all upload requests as "HTTP GET requests" in the 2.80 beta and as "Uploads" in 2.7 and earlier.

pmontague December 10th, 2002 09:32 AM

Well, after trying, tampering, fooling, following all of your directions and doing everything that an old guy can do, I am still not getting any hits. I guess it must have something to do with the Rocky Mountains being in the way, but here I sit -- hitless near Seattle, but further North in Canada.

I have done it all; I have tried it all; I am using 2.7.13 Pro on a 1 ghz machine running Windows XP and giving nothing in return for what I get from the network.

If anyone wants to help directly, e-mail me; I'd love the support


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