I read the thread you referred to in this one and I would offer the following comments on the matter.

#1 - Gnutella is a open network. Therefore, anyone can publish anything. This is obviously a good thing and a bad thing. i.e. Good = My company is a perfect example of this. Educational and Training videos / Applications created by LeeWare Development of course.

People who publish Open Source Software i.e. Linux/FreeBSD etc.
People who distribute movies/music/txt/videos from the public archive. etc. All non-infringing content.

Then you have, porn companies that advertise on p2p networks. fair use of the technology. (regardless of opinion)

Next, is child pornography - these people are predators and opportunist. --I include in this pranksters (immature kids).

This groups activities are illegal.

and Finally, software/movie/music pirates. People who largely deal in the distribution of infringing content i.e. stuff that they did not obtain any type of legal authority to distribute. Pranksters are also a part of this group.

This groups activities are also illegal.

The content published by these last two groups happens to be the most popular and sought after content on the network.

#2 Why do they do it?

Well, the first group that deals in child pornography and general pornography. Is made up of people looking for a way to anonymously trade illegal images and videos. Some times they rename the files to cloak their activies. However, the people belonging to that group know the true contents of the files.

Movie Pirates take ripped versions of porn movies and publish them on the network. (Copyright-infringement). The porn industry in response to this attempts to curtail the activity by flooding the network with video-clips that advertise the websites for such material.

The pranksters name the porn movies so that they look like infringing-content. Latest movie releases and unsuspecting users spend a lot of time download junk. The pranksters justify their actions by saying "they shouldn't have been trying to download x in the first place."

The irony is of course, people wouldn't come across such files if they weren't actively seeking them out.

#3 Why do people download this stuff?

Well, there are two reasons.

#1 They don't know any better.
#2 If they know better, they don't care.

There you have it. This is not a technology problem as much as it is a user population problem.

Hope this helps.

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I hope that when you say that you are connected via a MODEM you mean a cable modem and not a dialup one. Because if you do, then you really can't complain about your sources all being modem quality hosts. To put it another way, I could give you access to a 100Mbps connected host. But if you are connected via a modem you will only be able to download from that host @ about 45Kbps per second or lower. Limewire would show the speeds at 5-6KB.

Hope this helps.

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Thanks for the tips leeware. very informative...

I obviously want to play fair and share well, so I need to know how to force my firewire IP address.

I have just dowloaded limewire pro and have set up as suggested in your thread. However I need to know the procedure for forcing my Firewall IP (obtained from whatismyIP.com/as suggested). Is this done within limewire (i have checked the option to force ip-but see no place for IP entry)or is this a command line thing???

With regard to my download speed,even after carrying out your suggestions and updating to Limewire Pro I am still getting very dissapointing results (average of 5KB - from a 600Kbps (i.e 70KBps service)) as stated in my entry under:

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=26906

Perhaps my internet access is not configured correctly, as a 5KB download speed from a fast soure (cable/DSL) or above is not right, surely??
Is there a command that enables you to view the total maximum available bandwidth currently available to you???

Any other tips, would be of great help.

Cheers
sad newbie a.k.a
Danskiman

[QUOTE]Originally posted by LeeWare
[problem doesn't sound like a limewire problem as much as it is a problem with the sources you are trying to download from. There are three possible causes for your problem. Especially, if you are trying to download popular content . i.e. (usually infringing)#1 There are so many people trying to download from so few hosts. (supply/demand problem.)

#2 Since the early days of P2P there have been companies that place hosts on the network which return results for popular content but are configured in a way so that you can't actually download the files.

#4 Dynamic nature of the network. Don't forget that hosts join and leave the network constantly. Therefore, it is quite possible to perform a search, get results and by the time you go to download the files the hosts that returned the results has left the network i.e. more sources needed.


So i't just a case of timing. I am just happening to have problems at the same time I upgraded. Is there a way to try and get better hook ups? I am semi frusterated, because it feels like I can do the search's and those files come up while I am getting te notices for needing resources. If I go to them and do a search of their computer it comes up and tells me what's in it, but I can't get anything to download from them at that time. Does that make sense?? Am I beating a dead horse and there's actually nothing I am doing "wrong" persa here, I just have to develope a big case of patience....

Arlene

Arlene

[QUOTE]Originally posted by boo_hoooo

Quote:

Originally posted by LeeWare [problem doesn't sound like a limewire problem as much as it is a problem with the sources you are trying to download from. There are three possible causes for your problem. Especially, if you are trying to download popular content . i.e. (usually infringing)#1 There are so many people trying to download from so few hosts. (supply/demand problem.) #2 Since the early days of P2P there have been companies that place hosts on the network which return results for popular content but are configured in a way so that you can't actually download the files. #4 Dynamic nature of the network. Don't forget that hosts join and leave the network constantly. Therefore, it is quite possible to perform a search, get results and by the time you go to download the files the hosts that returned the results has left the network i.e. more sources needed. So i't just a case of timing. I am just happening to have problems at the same time I upgraded. Is there a way to try and get better hook ups? I am semi frusterated, because it feels like I can do the search's and those files come up while I am getting te notices for needing resources. If I go to them and do a search of their computer it comes up and tells me what's in it, but I can't get anything to download from them at that time. Does that make sense?? Am I beating a dead horse and there's actually nothing I am doing "wrong" persa here, I just have to develope a big case of patience.... Arlene Arlene

I won't deny that it could be a problem with LimeWire. However, before we assume that can you confirm the version you are using and confirm the fact that you are unable to download anything.

Or, is it a matter of not being able to download just (some) things.

Please advise.

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Ok. I can download at really really horribly slow speeds. I am on dsl and I am pretty sure that the things I was trying to download were off dsl also as I try to advoid dial-up. I am using limewire 4.0.7 which I just updated to this week. I did have some problems connecting before to folks but assumed as per the norm people were signing on and off. Now, though in a whole day I haven't had one single file down load (now mind you they are big for the most part) and three songs have been disconnected in the middle of download which one of was downloading for over 4 minutes when it downloaded. Most the time a song should be done before it really starts no?? Like I said, it could very well be that I am just trying to download big files that are taking up a lot of room. Is there a way to adjust my bandwidth to take more?? Is that the problem? What would I gain by going to pro?? I am whiney and frusterated today.. Husband wants to disconnect cable and dang it I wanted to get these files before he did that... LOL Heck if I will ever get them downloaded otherwise..

I can't download limewire pro from site. download link brings me back to itself, regardless of which browser I use. OSX is operating system- Thanks in advance-jbb

I just browsed a host and came across a sickening list of what if-it-is-what-it-is is child porn.
I realise that since I didn't download any of it that I can't be sure that's what it is. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised to find that there's not much discussion going on about what should be done about it. *Sigh*
I'm not into acting rashly and I am an advocate of freedom of speach. But child porn aint right... there's ethics on the one hand and there's children who are too young to defend themselves from harm. And that's what we're turning a blind eye too.

Authorities are trying to find people who commit these crimes but it seems a laborious task. I think sites like Limewire should say 'hosts who are identified as having child porn' in their share folders will have their IP addresses and information reported to relevant authorities'

I spose undoubtably these perverts will go underground (I read that they can change their IP addresses every time they log on) but its a start or maybe someone has a better idea??

There are a lot of people on these forums and others who have a lot of ideas about what it means to manage a network. In fact many of them will actually argue with you about particulars. Let me share this bit of knowledge with you as a person who is not only a real live network administrator but I work for a private industry ISP.

#1 P2P networks are heavly monitored by various organizations for not only child porn but for copyright violations.

#2 If you are using public infrastructure i.e. an ISP's IP address and you're communications with an anonymous public. You have a limited expectation of privacy. This is akin to publically walking naked and then complaining that other people can see you.

Ultimately, what I am trying to say is don't worry about it. Someone is always watching and waiting and will take the appropriate action at the appropriate time.

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Did you buy it?

If not, I think you might want to try one of the free offerings. If you did -- I believe that they have an email address you can use to contact the limewire team.

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