"Download Any" and "Download All"

[Crazy Miz B]

Q: Is grouping always accurate?

A: No. This is the reason for the ?Download Any? and ?Download All? options.You can, for example, select all of those individual files within one group and press, ?download all.? This will attempt to download ALL of the songs you have selected. ?Download any,? in contrast, will attempt to download ONE of the files in the currently selected group. Grouping can be disabled by unchecking the check box at the bottom right of the search window
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I'm on a Mac G4 using Safari with DSL. I have read this again and again---and I can't find a way to choose "any" or "all" option. What am I doing WRONG?!!!

Does "grouping" help me get MORE songs faster, or fewer songs in the long run..?

I have tons of "unable to download"----so I figure I have some preference set incorrectly----or stupidly! That's nothin new to me...

Miz B
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P.S. THANKS.

[der_schreckliche_sven]

Download any/all has been removed a couple of versions ago, since grouping now is always accurate.

[David91]

Hi

To answer your other questions:

By grouping like host sources together, you achieve two potential benefits:

(a) you may get two or more sources to download simultaneously which, by a process happily described as an avalanche, downloads your desired material more quickly than from a single source; or

(b) gives you a safety net to a stalled download. If you have a single host and it fails, you have to take remedial action to recover the connection or identify another source. If you are using a grouped source, when one host fails, you will automatically be passed on to the next host in the group that is free.

The reason for you seeing many more "unable to download" messages has nothing to do with your settings in the Preference boxes. It is simply that the number of people using Gnutella has been increasing dramatically but, sadly, the majority are unsociable and only take, tantalising the world with a list of hits that will never be given. You have to be very active to search and then repeat the searches over time so that you identify as wide a spectrum of potential sources for the material you want as possible. Persistence and a refinement of searching strategies is required on your part.

[Crazy Miz B]

Originally posted by David91
Hi
The reason for you seeing many more "unable to download" messages has nothing to do with your settings in the Preference boxes. It is simply that the number of people using Gnutella has been increasing dramatically but, sadly, the majority are unsociable and only take, tantalising the world with a list of hits that will never be given. You have to be very active to search and then repeat the searches over time so that you identify as wide a spectrum of potential sources for the material you want as possible. Persistence and a refinement of searching strategies is required on your part.

That seems WRONG! I confess, i've been going to my prreferences files a lot as I've been trying to tweak them to help me understand...at first I chose to allow only a very small number of freeloaders....but then I realized that until I downloaded some songs, I would "appear" to be a freeloader as well, as I had nothing to share...so I set it high to allow new people .

What do you recommend?

There's so much to learn!

Thanks for all your help...
Paula

[David91]

Frankly, with the exception of the two defaults of using the Limewire MP3 Player and being an ultrapeer, I would leave all the defaults untouched in the Preference boxes. Although tweaking and fiddling at the margins can often be a good learning strategy, it won't help you much here. Your machine and your "habits" will be noticed and dispassionately recorded by the ultrapeer machines. The more you share and the more reliably others are able to upload from you, the more your machine (and its user) will earn respect. It's a quid pro quo kind of thang. However, even that would be irrelevant so long as you remain a leaf by choice. And, in all seriousness, there are some performance issues for the developers to resolve for ultrapeers and you will be safer as a leaf until then, even though it does marks you down as less than completely sociable. But, in the wider pool of Gnutella, the majority of unthinking and uncaring users will be oblivious to this minor blemish on your escutcheon.

[Crazy Miz B]

Originally posted by David91
Frankly, with the exception of the two defaults of using the Limewire MP3 Player and being an ultrapeer, I would leave all the defaults untouched in the Preference boxes....

. And, in all seriousness, there are some performance issues for the developers to resolve for ultrapeers and you will be safer as a leaf until then, even though it does marks you down as less than completely sociable. But, in the wider pool of Gnutella, the majority of unthinking and uncaring users will be oblivious to this minor blemish on your escutcheon.

I'll go see if I can reset the defaults, and will DEFINITELY remain a happy leaf, especially as summer is approaching here, and I can at least live until late fall...when I'll fall to the ground and rot.

I'm new on Mac OS X---and while I knew all my previous Macs up one side and down the other----this Unix stuff is ALL new to me...I sure ain't ready to deal with performance issues of any kind...Cripes, I'm still working on getting my own tiny 2-computer network up and running!

Everything is completely changed...

The "help" here is way beyond great...Best I've come across in years...congratulations to those of you working on keeping this up and growing.

Is there a forum where musicians meet to discuss ways in which this might be used to HELP a band stay viable and still earn some money?

Thanks for all the service/help you've given...

Paula

[David91]

Don't be deceived by any of the advertising linking OSX to Unix. For all practical everyday purposes, you don't need to know. Watch out what you're doing if you propose to link access between your two machines and the internet. Routers can cause problems to Limewire's operation and you will need more advice if that is your intention.

As to the service on this forum. It's just an accident that there are a number of helpful people around. Come back in a few months and there'll likely be a new crew on board. As to advising the band, that's called management and is worth a percentage of the gross.

Good luck

David

[Crazy Miz B]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by David91
[B]Don't be deceived by any of the advertising linking OSX to Unix. For all practical everyday purposes, you don't need to know.
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Yeah--I only use ONE Unix command...the only one I know...but all the files are located differently, and many things are handled differently---to me it's different anyway..


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Watch out what you're doing if you propose to link access between your two machines and the internet. Routers can cause problems to Limewire's operation and you will need more advice if that is your intention.
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No internet linkage---it's just to access my earlier writing for my book, much of which is on 3.5 disks---can't use those on my G4. Would I be safe to use the network IN HOUSE only---if I turned off Limewire just for the brief time to transfer those files?
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As to the service on this forum. It's just an accident that there are a number of helpful people around. Come back in a few months and there'll likely be a new crew on board.
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In that case, I'm grateful and LUCKY, then.
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As to advising the band, that's called management and is worth a percentage of the gross.
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I was referring to a peer group--about Limewire---not actual management...Uh--actually, that's what I am....but this sharing is new to me. Would love to talk with musicians who've learned the ins and outs of utilizing it successfully...I'm brand new.

I'll keep looking---I'll bet they're here somewhere and I just haven't looked hard enough...

Thanks again!

Paula

[David91]

Brave Vikings never worry about Grendelunix, they just float across the top of the lake and never worry about what lies beneath. Just have the confidence to experiement and you will solve your problems.

The problem is in the actual use of routers. In your situation, you can leave Limewire on.

Good luck in your search for kindred spirits.

David

[Crazy Miz B]

Originally posted by David91
Brave Vikings never worry about Grendelunix, they just float across the top of the lake and never worry about what lies beneath. Just have the confidence to experiement and you will solve your problems.

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You do love English Lit, don't you? Me, too...there is great beauty in the good stuff...

I am floating like a leaf, which is appropriate, I think...especially here. And I've never been afraid of experimenting.

The only thing so far that is beneath the lake that I utilize is fsck -y --- and that is a marvelous thing...one day I shall read about a few other cleaning-up type thingies...but that, alas, will probably wait until what I am ready to learn is already far outdated!

(Am not sure why the letters have to be quite so close to obnoxiousness, but then again, programmers are an interesting lot, and many of them very funny...I'm nearly certain the originator of that command would be a hoot to talk to...)

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The problem is in the actual use of routers. In your situation, you can leave Limewire on.

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I agree...I just don't see a conflict.
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Good luck in your search for kindred spirits.
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Well, I am sure I will find some---for example, look how easily I found you...

Thanks again, as always.
Paula in St. Louis, Missouri, U.S.A.

David