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Old August 19th, 2005
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Unhappy Downloads "Jump" backwards

I have Limewire PRO 4.9.11, and spent days downloading a cd image. (@ variably between 1&15 KB/s). When I was 98% done, I had to shut down my computer overnight, as I did often before (Properly: 1.Paused download 2.Exited Limewire 3. Shut down computer). The next morning my download had "jumped" back to 18%! I am fuming!

Any help or info would be appreciated.
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Old August 19th, 2005
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i have the same problem
my experience says that the file u D/L is now garbish -> u need to restart D/L from zero

see the thread "resuming downloads" in this forum
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you shouldnt have shutdown you computer i guess? most likely you were downloading from one source. the network is very dynamic. this goes with any network and any application. you can only blame yourself for thinking the file would still be available from the same source when you get back online. moral of the story: if your that close to finishing the download, why not let it download.
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Since I saw there are more list of disscusion with the same subject i'll post my masseges here too:


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Originally posted by Dagam3
O sheet man... i'm having this problem too... I downloaded a 700 Mb file until 88%. After that I paused the active downloads and I closed the program because I rebooted the computer for some reason(...). When I get back the file starts from 5%... Is there someone who could help...?

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Originally posted by Dagam3
I forget... this is the second time it happends at the same file... First time it happend at 25% (and back to 0%). Now I don't know what to do any more... I'm afraid not to try the third time and see this happends at 99% !!! I'm really thinging at trying some other program... (no ofense)... It was a bad start for me in using this program 'cose it's the second day of using it...

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Originally posted by Dagam3
OK man... was a litle angry before...


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I'm running win ME,
Lime Wire 4.9.21
Java 1.5.03_03
I have a cable conection
No error message
The file it's an avi file. I found it on my hard in the "incomplete" directory and it's about 90% downloaded. I rebuild it's index... but for now I only can watch 90% of it Lot of suspans... But the problem still remains... when I open lime wire, the download progres it's at 5%, and if I'm leting it to start (to connect to hosts) it starts with no error. I don't know where it puts the downloaded information... may be I'll and up with a litle bigger file
And tere is more: I run scan disk on the partition where the file it is saved and I got an error saying that the windows may be reporting more free space on the partition than it really is... I've fix it... and now I have a 90% downloaded file with 5% progres in Lime wire. I thinc that one of the problems could be when the program alocates the space for the beeing downloaded files... Hope that my observation will help the programers team. Good luck to every one and try to use the "resume download" function as less as possible.

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quote:Originally posted by Sphinx
sorry, hate to tell you Lord of the rings, the Limewire resume function never worked. and Ive used Limewire for a long time. and I'll be damed if I can get a resume going after loosing a connection and Im on cable. Actually, its always a good idea to download bearshare lite for backup.


You can read more there...
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Quote:
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you shouldnt have shutdown you computer i guess? most likely you were downloading from one source. the network is very dynamic. this goes with any network and any application. you can only blame yourself for thinking the file would still be available from the same source when you get back online. moral of the story: if your that close to finishing the download, why not let it download.
No ofense ultracross but I thinc you should read this before you even thinc about talking...

Q: Can I resume the download of a file?

A: As of the current release, there is a "forced resume" button, which allows users to restart a download from the download window. "Smart downloading" will try to "auto-resume" your file if needed.

Q: What happens to my active downloads if I exit LimeWire?

A: If you exit the LimeWire program, any downloads that were in progress will terminate at this time. These downloads will resume the next time you start the program, but only if the host of that download is connected to the Gnutella network.

Q: Where are my files stored before they have completed the download process?

A: They are stored in an "Incomplete" directory. Click the "Library" tab to view.

Q: Can I "preview" files before they have completed downloading?

A: You can preview in-progress downloads of media files by simply double clicking on the name of a file currently being downloaded or pressing the "Launch" button after highlighting the file being downloaded.


Q: Does LimeWire preserve the state of downloads in the case of a system crash?

A:Yes. LimeWire will generally behave as if you had quit the program. (See above.)


and you can read more here http://www.limewire.com/english/content/faq.shtml#dow5

I don't see any specification that you should not shutdown your computer........



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moral of the story: if your that close to finishing the download, why not let it download.


Yes???...???... than what is the moral of "resuming download" function in this program ???????????

And you know what: What are functions of the program that you are testing. 'cose I saw that you are a beta tester???? Have you ever tested this function and alway worked impecably for you. If yes, than I thinc that you are just a normal user...


Again sorry for my tone no ofense, no bad meanings!
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the resume functions in limewire are still alittle unclear and may have bugs in it. and yes, i extensively test beta software. i have had this happen MANY of time before. for normal users, they should allow the download to complete without any interruptions. this is the best way to avoid any bugs that are in the resume function. your right, i am a normal user of LW, but i know some things most users will never know. its like a car, the mechanic knows more about the car than the owner will ever want to know.

btw, i decided to become a beta tester because i got fed up with alot of the bugs that were in the versions that i was using previously.

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peace man, but I saw that told johnlond that it's his blame... (in the end, for just) trying to resume a download. And that got me mad... when in the FAQ is not saying anything about this...

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(...) you can only blame yourself for thinking the file would still be available from (...)

Keep up with the good work and in the end we'll al have a better LW. with no bugs... Respect
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btw, the faq and userguide is alittle outdated.
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Dagam3

Although this thread has reached its conclusion I would just like to add a little bit to it.

Both Ultracross and you are right about resuming downloads but there is one little point you have seen but have not understood its significance.

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Q: What happens to my active downloads if I exit LimeWire?

A: If you exit the LimeWire program, any downloads that were in progress will terminate at this time. These downloads will resume the next time you start the program, but only if the host of that download is connected to the Gnutella network.
Which means that if that PC or server you are downloading from is switched off LW will not be able to resume downloading from the point you switched off your machine. LW will go looking for another download source and, if it finds it, try to match it to what you already have. But if it cannot match what you have exactly it will go back to a point where the match will fit, that could be anywhere from your PC switch off point to 1%. And if it cannot make a match at all it will start the download all over again.

So Ultracross is correct when he says that you run the risk when you switch off your PC.

Also remember that the P2P network consists of thousands of individually owned PCs (and some user owned servers) which can be switched off or on at any time by their owners.




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Which means that if that PC or server you are downloading from is switched off LW will not be able to resume downloading from the point you switched off your machine. LW will go looking for another download source and, if it finds it, try to match it to what you already have. But if it cannot match what you have exactly it will go back to a point where the match will fit, that could be anywhere from your PC switch off point to 1%. And if it cannot make a match at all it will start the download all over again.
UK Bob
If what you say is correct then LW has a serious bug!!!
LW should try to match only the all imcomplete file and if cannot make a match ask what to do: wait another source or match the most he can.
I only try to D/L files with 4* and 2+ sources and allways see if the file exists in bitzi database. With that, unless exists any D/L error, LW shoud resume properly from a compatible file.

then: is a LW bug or a LW bug?
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