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Old September 8th, 2005
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Question Never over 30-50kB/s on very fast conn.

Been using LW quite some time now and content about it. BUT..

what is comes down to is I can't get above 30-50kB/s DL speed.
At start it occasionally will go above 100kB/s but longer than 10 secs and it droppes back to the 30-50. Goes for large/small files
much/few resources.

I'm on a 20Mbit (2,5 mB/s) down and 1Mbit (100 kB/s) up cable conn (chello voor NL'ers) here at home, and my neighbour busts my LW speeds with
his 4Mbit dsl and it ****** me off

On the other hand, I can download lots of files at the same time
so that LW says 20 @ 800 kb/s for example next to the lil'blue globe left below in the screen. But still none of the DL's seperately are above 50 kB/s . So it should be possible to get higher individual results. with searching all goes well. Get up to 300 sources on popular files. usally get 5-8 sources on (long) file DL's

Here's what I've checked/done so far:
- new router (wrt54g) and knowing that ports on router are open (Upnp)
--- port test and globe icon in lw is excellent
- all LW settings that 'could' affect are set properly/tested for differences incl. supernode on/off. (Not quite searching in that direction)
- tried both wireless and cable conn from router to computer
- tried LW pro
- been using a year or so now, so several installs of both LW and WinXP pro further.
- other TCP and UDP ports, manually configured

I'm hoping somebody could tell me something about the influence of:
- the number of uploads and slots allowed by me (currently set to 3 and 3 slots and DL. (rewardsystem?)
- the receive and or transmit window you have to set in windows itself
-the big amount of connections that eMule/eDonkey makes in relation to other p2p programs
-other things that all of y'all intelligent ppl can tell me to solve this 'luxury' problem besides "don't bother, u'r Dl'ing right" or "adjust the DL bandwidth-slider more to the right in options"

TYFYT reading. TYFYT replying!!

Dennis
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Old September 8th, 2005
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Never rely on your own speed. 30k is dam good if you ask me. I have cable and I'm lucky if I get 20k in Limewire. You are downloading off of fellow users and we got to go by their speed more than we go by our own. Thats just the way it works and there isnt a way to increase it. Limewire uses the gnutella network. Seems to me your going at top speed, I dont think I have ever dled at 30k!!!! Not in LW anyway.
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i'm guessing that if you download something from ie or firefox it goes at full speed for you, so >100k

the problem is your isp... most isps now are capping bandwidth due to how much p2p sharing uses on their servers. try changing the ports limewire uses. try something like 32524 (or something random like that) and make sure you're forwarding them to your computer from your router.

if that doesn't work, your isp is probably packet shaping (intercepting the packets and sending dividing them up into smaller packets of 30 k ) and you can't do anything to change that.

if that's the case, switch isps. go for what your neighbor has.
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yep, and I know for a fact my cable is capping our bandwidth and thats why I can only go so fast, 20k seems to be my max, even with cable to cable downloads. Id give anything to dl at 30-50k!!!
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You might be getting capped as Sphinx suggested. Here's an example of how a p2p bandwidth shaper can work: Bandwidth Shaper Sample - typical of how some ISP's use it (click on link) ie: giving priority to net surfing & low priorities to p2p sharing. This example targets Gnutella programs.

Try downlding a magnet link from here to see what speeds you get: http://www.magnetmix.com/video.shtml

See Stief’s example: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...692#post138692 to see what speeds you can get up to.

See the following link & follow “ALL” the off-shoot links to find hints & extra skills to help generally: To continue files downlding (click on link)
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Old September 9th, 2005
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Thanx for the wisdom provided!

Lepricon, have switched to another random port number. Took a 5 digit cause I once read somewhere that if isps are capping, they're mostlikely to do it on ports *-1000 (?). No luck so far.
You know if the packet size (of the isp or in general) has anything to do with the tcp receive window and related settings XP has? Or are those values that don't relate to each other. I know a thing or two bout computers, but this is on the edge of my knowledge

Lotr, the magnetlink download got to 60k max, so i'm guessing that's bout the max, given my specific LW/comp setup. Is the bandwidth shaping of any given isp to be seen as purely information, or is it something that you can possibily change to get better results?

Sphinx, links provided in last post by lotr are promising. Seems like we have bout the same problem. I'm gonna get in to it and let you know bout my findings. First gonna try searching for 2 or 4 files only and cable/dsl speed only filter. See if content found is still acceptable... Let y'all know.

Thanks again guys, appreciate it
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Old September 9th, 2005
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Here's what the www.magnetmix.com should be able to provide right now (try the same file for a similar check).

Using 4.2.9.29 Pro in leaf mode, 5/1 MB/s cable to a slower mac iBook (700MHz), through a hub and router (ports properly forwarded) on port 20300.

My ISP lifted the SANDVINE packet preferencing system, and has exempted me from the CISCO NBAR filtering they were using. They agreed to do this when I was able to show that their competion wasn't filtering or otherwise interfering with gnutella traffic, and that I was reluctantly ready to switch. Both ISP's offer 3 month free trials of the high-speed services, so I was subscribed to both for a while TCP dump analyses by an expert and screenshots of the upload graphs really made the difference.
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So, If i understand you correct stief, your isp lifted your particular conn (or your neighbourhood hub) from cisco nbar, resulting in you can determine your own QoS for all types of packets? Or have they increased the number of packets for gnutella you can receive?

Well, doesn't really matter, it increased your LW speed big time, as shown on your pic. Nice speed

So this is something I have to contact my isp for and persuade them into changing the bandwidth shapings, right?

Ow yeah sphinx, these are the results of changing the star-level you search for and the setting the sources you DL from to adsl/cable:


[IMG][/IMG]



So it has improved quite a bit! Should try it!
TY
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Old September 12th, 2005
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xp sp2 limits the number of open connections you can have, but that doesn't play a huge part in this... it's your isp... yeah... i think this was already covered during the weekend. you can do your best to fool your isp, but i dunno how much is possible. i've got the same problem, but i'm not too worried about limewire speeds.
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