Well I upgraded to 4.9.30 and I'm trying it out as I type, it took me bloody hours to get rid of the old version I finally worked out I had to get rid of java(I had two and I got rid of old version), everthing downloaded perfectly after that.But I didnt save old lw to disc because I didnt read your post until it was to late. Cross my fingers that 4.9.30 doesnt give me any trouble.Thanks for all your advice... more than likely chat again soon.

thanks for the reply and mentioning about the two javas. I dont recall seeing that as a problem before so that might help others /....

bye for now Hobo...

__________________
To get Phex Click on the Fox