Hiya, again...

Nothing negative from me at you...

Only making reference to one of numerous popular misconceptions...

Vicarious learning, phlogiston, phrenology, psychiatry, "military intelligence", 'the will of the people', etc., etc. all = the same...
Axiomatic garbage that does not obtain, hmmm ?

Concepts based on false percepts forming structures of 'thought' and societal 'values'...
i.e. Rite Words in Rote Order !!!

Vicarious experiences may occur, but the learning aspect is unknown within the species !

Took the definition of PTHC from http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term= pthc Short for "preteen hardcore" or child porn. Used mostly on p2p programs such as Kazaa. All I did was google the term and this is what I found. Hope it helped.

i blame the kids i mean like if me ******** all the children there wont be any for porn right?

[abusive language edited]

1st rule of P2P File sharing.
Never
Never
NEVER
Download pictures or porn videos out of them.

Simple as that.

Well, Ive read through many of other peoples comments, and I believe that Child Porn is really bad, its bad for the world its bad for the people and kids. But blaming it on P2P networks isnt gonna help, people have been maslting kids since the birth of man kind,

In Asia and Thailand more then 4million children are being held as Sex slaves and abused by pedophiles, this is sick.

Sometimes I feel like shooting them. The people who are running these buessnieses ARE EXAMPLE; POLICEMEN (Not all ofcourse, but some)..!!!

Yes Policemen run these bussnies, talk about corrupted country?

Hi all,

Im pretty new here. Was browsing this forum to see if anyone had any info on how to report child porn on limewire so it can be removed.

Anywhoo, reading some of the messages gone by there is misconception out there that I think I need to address. Long story short I was put into researching child sex crimes and the psychology behind these perverts about a year ago. The misconception I am speaking of is the notion that people who download child porn are less 'sick' than those doing the act, or that those who draw images are less sick than those who obtain real ones. This is absolutely not true. I am drawing on stats here in my mind that I looked at over 6 months ago so I might be a tincy bit out, but something like 70 - 80% of people who obtain / download child pornography go on to actually commit child sex offences. This is one of the reasons they are so harsh on it as a crime and consider posession and production (including drawings and stories) to be a child sex crime. Trust me when I say that the person who downloads child pornography should be considered just as dangerous as a paedophile - the truth is that they sexually enjoy this stuff so if the right opportunity arose they are at high risk of actually offending against a child.

Just thought I would clarify this as it is a dangerous misconception to believe that there are grades of these crimes that dictate how sick a person is or how dangerous they are - there aren't, if you are sickly attracted to children then you are sickly attracted to children and sadly the majority of repeat child sex offenders (including posession of child porn in that tally) are unable to be rehabilitated to the point where they are considered 'safe' around children. The question as to when abuse of the child starts is usually answered by officials like this: the abuse starts in the abuser's mind, not when they act on it.

Anyhow, does anyone out there have an answer to my dliema on where is best to report child porn on limewire?? I haven't downloaded anything bad, but on one search I did one of the files that came up was beyond obvious as it detailed as such in the title.

LimeWire, as a company, has absolutely no control over what is shared on the public network, which is
not a "LimeWire" network but the gnutella network that many different gnutella-compatible programs connect to.
Copy down the IP address and report it to the police or whatever tips organization you have in your area.

That 70 - 80% statistic sounds pretty suspicious. If a credible study had proved it there would
have been a lot of press coverage and everybody would know it, so treat that statistic as just
another example of somebody trying too hard to sell their ideas on anti porn activism.

I am fairly new to Limewire and I understand that there is no way you can be made responsible for the contents of people's harddrives, nevertheless, I think that you are a fairly large and important entity in the Internet community, and as such there is a social responsibility that can't be ignored. Like I said, I am new to the program ( a couple months) and I am already aware of the incredible amount of underage and child pornography that is easily obtainable through P2P- Can you please supply us with a list of sites where these IP addresses can be reported? I live outside of the US, so calling the FBI is not exactly an option for me, and I really don't know how seriously these claims would be taken in my country. On the other hand, I think that just as you have moderators for the forums to check for bad language and other innapropriate things you could have people who "moderate" or constantly check for the contents being shared through your system. I am aware that the amount of material is huge, but it is worth the try don't you think??
In the same way, users could perform these searches and report the IP addresses, but in order to be sure you'd have to download the content, and this is stuff that I don't believe any "normal" person would want to see, and there is also the fear of being prosecuted for downloading such material.
I'm just making a few suggestions here, since I am one of the users who have come across this kind of material. There has to be something that can be done, and again I would like to emphasize the fact that you as a company, and us as users, DO HAVE a social resposibility to try and stop this disgusting and damaging material.

It's literally impossible to go out and erase things on other peoples' computers, or to
completely block any one person from gnutella. Gnutella was designed from the ground up to
protect freedom of speech and the freedom to share, and to make it impossible for any one
entity, no matter how large, to control in any way.

You can at least partially shield yourself by going into the options for LimeWire and adding
more keywords to the keyword filter. Here's the set I give out to anybody that wants to block
porn and spam: http://www3.telus.net/Aaron_Walkhouse/FilterKeyword.txt

To report this kind of thing you should familiarize yourself with all the various tip lines and
organizations around the world and use the appropriate one for each IP address you find. As
you find them you will inevitably find the one nearest you, which you can use whenever you are
not sure where the IP address is located. If you want to become active in anything, finding out
on your own where to go and what to do is a necessary step, otherwise you will falter and
never really get started.

I will tell you that most of them tend to use the word "exploitation" in their names or on their web sites. ;]

@ lifesbutadream....

I think you are missing a very vital point...none of us here that regularly post are employees of LW, LLC....the words you use make it obvious you think that you are talking to such a person, which AaronWalkhouse is most certainly not....

as far as places to report, try these:

cpHotline.org
ASACP: Association of Sites Advocating Child Protection
Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3)

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