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Old July 23rd, 2002
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in ultrapeer mode set 3 ultrapeers and 100 childs/leafs. In Child/leaf mode have 7 ultrapeers.That's the perfect way to go!
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Thanks, that is exactly what I wished to know. I have hear something about 3 ultrapeers, but I didn't see it clearly since doc only say <10 (which could be a lot). And I didn't see nothing about leaf connections. So, I think that this is a closed issue. Thanks again.
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Old July 25th, 2002
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It is absolutely essential that leaves be limited to acquiring no more than 3 Ultrapeers.

BearShare 4.0.0 unfortunately ships with the maximum set to 10. Although I didn't realize it at the time, this puts an unbelievable burden on the network and creates a massive shortage of leaf slots.

Thank god Morpheus Ultrapeers are under-utilized, and our Hosts View is hidden from sight by default.

We will be correcting this defect ASAP.

On a related note, it really is beneficial to the network to allow as many leaves as possible per Ultrapeers. This allows queries to do more work at each step, and shields leaves from the bulk of traffic.

It is also very important to make sure that Wi*** and Win98 systems NEVER become Ultrapeers.

Additionally, Ultrapeers should meet certain minimum bandwidth, CPU, and memory requirements as well.
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Old July 25th, 2002
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Originally posted by Vinnie
It is absolutely essential that leaves be limited to acquiring no more than 3 Ultrapeers.
Those 3 Ultrapeers would have to be better than 99% of the ones I've connected to. In the last two weeks I've seen ONE, I repeat, ONE Ultrapeer that claimed to have more than a couple hundred hosts connected. Disregarding the potentially erroneous host count, I've still seen about 50% of the Ultrapeers to which I connect have almost no traffic at all. Either they're doing a very, very good job of shielding me from network traffic, or they're very poorly connected.

If all those broken Morpheus Ultrapeers could be removed overnight, I'd have no problem with a limit of 3, but until those bad Ultrapeers are gone, a limit of 3 would be death to the network, at least as a viable entity for finding files.
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If all those broken Morpheus Ultrapeers could be removed overnight, I'd have no problem with a limit of 3, but until those bad Ultrapeers are gone, a limit of 3 would be death to the network, at least as a viable entity for finding files.
I have to agree. When Morpheus introduced ultrapeer support (updated to a newer version of Gnucleus ), the # of query hits received, on average - per search, dropped dramatically for ultrapeer enabled clients. It has been my experience that 5 regular peer connections produce the same amount of query hits as 7 to 10 connections to ultrapeers (as a leaf node). With most clients having such a low # of ultrapeer connections by default, I suspect that most users are having the same experience.

Remember, gnutella Ultrapeers aren't nearly as effective as those in the KaZaa/FastTrack network. 3 Ultrapeers is completely unreasonable if you expect a user to find anything other than "Britney's latest hit"...

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