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Old March 14th, 2002
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First, I would like to point out they irony and hypocracy of the people that are against clustering and servent blocking are writing code to drop clients and block then from downloading. Note, I havent seen code to prevent uploading from these clients (you leeches).

Moak, if you want change make it. Not by bashing the other clients but by providing something better. Organize the group of people here that are so frustrated with gnutella to do something besides bitch about it. Write a new client or help with an existing one like gnucleus.

Yes, the GDF can be frustrating, but its all there is right now. If you want something better quite demanding that others give it to you and DO IT YOURSELF!!!
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Moak, use your talents to help us all get rid of the commercial interests and greed on gnutella. Don't give up now!
hi... all of the work should not be put in the hands of one person, if you feel the same way chime in! Part of the problem here is that people dont help each other this is a comunity and please dont try to push it off on another person.
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Im not trying to push anything on anyone. Personaly I love how well things are coming with gnutella. Downloads are finally working, searches are great, ect.

All I am saying is that if you dont like what is going on actually do something besides complain. Help with the documentation or help with a client. If you dont like spyware use a different client. Gnucleus is a great open source client.
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All I am saying is that if you dont like what is going on actually do something besides complain.
Do you know what we are doing besides complaining?

If "NOT" donīt tell us what we have to do!

Morgwen

P.S.:

What do you do besides complaining?

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Gnutellafan, it's easy to judge about other and give advices, but what have you done? Somtimes it's better to leave the old path and start something new and better.
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Gnutellafan, it's easy to judge about other and give advices, but what have you done? Somtimes it's better to leave the old path and start something new and better.
Yes we are planing a NEW protocol!

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If you dont like spyware use a different client.
No, no - write a program that rips the spyware out of your favorite client! Now that's using your talent!
NOPs are so fun.
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Exclamation $4000/mo. for a FastTrack license? Are you NUTS?

Someone mentioned that KaZaa pays $4000/mo. for a license, then asked where they come up with that kind of money.

helllloooo. wake UP.
if a FastTrack license was only $4K/Mo. everyone and their dog would be running a fasttrack client.

"where do they get that kind of money?"
do you have any idea how much each user is worth? Let's take the old Morpheus for an example- they didn't even bundle "spyware"- they only displayed banner ads.
I've read that morpheus of old served over 6Billion ad impressions to date. Ok. They can sell those impressions for at least 50 cents/thousand. You do the math.

thats million$ right there. KaZaa gets about 15-25 cents for every user that installs them and their spyware (I'm in the industry, I know btw). Think about that over 20 million or so users.

$4000 a month? You've got to be joking. You can make $4K a month on the Net with about 1/100th of the users KaZaa pulls in.
KaZaa makes more like $4 Million a month.

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Someone mentioned that KaZaa pays $4000/mo. for a license, then asked where they come up with that kind of money.

helllloooo. wake UP.
if a FastTrack license was only $4K/Mo. everyone and their dog would be running a fasttrack client.

"where do they get that kind of money?"
do you have any idea how much each user is worth? Let's take the old Morpheus for an example- they didn't even bundle "spyware"- they only displayed banner ads.
I've read that morpheus of old served over 6Billion ad impressions to date. Ok. They can sell those impressions for at least 50 cents/thousand. You do the math.

thats million$ right there. KaZaa gets about 15-25 cents for every user that installs them and their spyware (I'm in the industry, I know btw). Think about that over 20 million or so users.

$4000 a month? You've got to be joking. You can make $4K a month on the Net with about 1/100th of the users KaZaa pulls in.
KaZaa makes more like $4 Million a month.

sheesh
We are talking about Gnutella not fasttrack! Gnutella is open and free, you donīt need to pay for it!

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So take Gnucleus source code, munge it around a bit so no one knows that you are using it, compile the exe file and start your own network. Never ever give out the source code so no one knows where you got it from, sort of like BearShare does.
I would be happy with $200 a month.
Anyone want to advertise on my new network?
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