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TruStarwarrior December 13th, 2001 02:53 AM

So are segments done in larger chunks than swarming? Which would be harder to resume? A swarmed or segmented download?

Moak December 13th, 2001 03:11 AM

hmm, basically downloading is the same.

When downloading segmented the chunck/partials might be much bigger, up to the full file size. Swarmed chunks/partials are small, a few 100KBs or whatever will fit best to the needs of making modem users part of the network.
Segmented downloading and swarming does NOT exclude each other! Swarming is just a "bonus". One advantage of swarming is that e.g. resuming should be improved, because the files have been distributed all over the network and therfor offer more alternative sources. :)

TruStarwarrior December 13th, 2001 03:18 AM

That's good to know. Resuming is such a necessary feature in a Gnutella client. I wonder why such popular clients as BearShare don't have this. In fact, a lot of clients seem to be missing this feature... :-(

Moak December 13th, 2001 03:44 AM

jep! Do you remember what happened before Xolox came up? Nothing. Gnutella was sleeping and FastTrack was becoming more famous every week. With all this new ideas like superpeer, swarming, automatic resuming, metadata, hashs and more... I feel amazing for Gnutella. :)

TruStarwarrior December 13th, 2001 03:51 AM

Things have definitely picked up the pace. There was lull for long while there, but the tides of Gnutevolution are turning again. I am excited about where Gnutella will go.
:-)
I wonder, though, if Gutella becomes WAY TOO popular, will it attract more attention from the RIAA? In other words, will Gnutella's success be its demise?

Morgwen December 13th, 2001 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TruStarwarrior
Resuming is such a necessary feature in a Gnutella client. I wonder why such popular clients as BearShare don't have this.
I am wondering for over 8 months about this...

Morgwen

TruStarwarrior December 13th, 2001 04:07 AM

I know LimeWire has resume, and I think Gnucleus does too. Any others that resume as well?

Morgwen December 13th, 2001 04:22 AM

I think bearshare is the only Gnutella client without it...

But I have only tested the Windows clients so far... but now I installed Linux and I will check the rest! :)

Morgwen

John Blackbelt Jones December 13th, 2001 04:44 AM

so, Oct 2000... That is a little out of date, ain't it? That were still the days of gnute.com. I had already tried gnutella that time and it certainly has change since.

I analyzed a gnut host list, which was three months or so old and out of 10k hosts there weren't any more than 3.5k hosts not sharing any files. Note that this is not accurate at all, since freeloaders have a much shorter uptime on Gnutella they appear and disappear at a high frequency, while the clients sharing lots of files usually are online much longer. So those numbers don't mean there are 35% freeloaders at any given time, but 35% of the hosts seen in about 20 hours were freeloaders.

About Fasttrack... I know about Fasttrack, because I'm a freeloader on the Fasttrack network (usually 1GB per day). Miao yourself!

Morgwen December 13th, 2001 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by John Blackbelt Jones
About Fasttrack... I know about Fasttrack, because I'm a freeloader on the Fasttrack network (usually 1GB per day). Miao yourself!
YOU are a freeloader... :mad:

and will tell us something about improvements?

John where is your honour?

Or are you only a troll with a big mouth?

Morgwen


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