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Sorry Please dont take it personally. I really knew that I shouldnt have put the comment in there but it was really more of a swing at myself than anyone. I dont know any programing and can only contribute to possible theories on how to improve gnutella. I was not aware that anyone here actaully had a client (besides cultiv8r, which I have yet to see). If you are a programer/developer great. What languages do you know and what projects are you working on? Gnucleus, Phex, LW...? |
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Sorry too I spoke in defense for this forum, most important is we all find and work together. About coders lurking here at the moment, I know there are Cultiv8or, Tama, GodX to name someone. I have a C++ background, there's no Gnutella client I contribute with code. Greets, Moak Last edited by Moak; January 28th, 2002 at 04:13 PM. |
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Yeah, offtopic Let me just add this, the current mails on the GDF are perfectly explaining the "high society" and "commercial" attitude I mentioned: Raphael wrote: "Let's vote on this issue. I'll manually conclude the vote when I see all the active servent developpers have voted. Please, only Gnutella developpers should vote, and only ONE vote per servent. I.e. LW gets ONE vote." Vinnie wrote: "Besides, regardless of the poll results, BearShare will follow whatever scheme LimeWire uses in the interest of not creating divergent implementations." Vinnie wrote: "Contrary to popular belief, the GDF is not a democracy, and servent developers are under no obligation to "adhere" to GDF proceedings. This having been said, cooperation is *recommended* but not required." |
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Sorry i was confused to.. i mean HASHes... I was only wondered why using SHA1 because from my point of view i find it "too much" for the Gnutella Protocol and for the purpose that is used. I read some articles for reducing network traffic for Gnutella like (Pong/Query Hashes or Ultrapeers). These "extensions" are used to save bandwidth and speed up downloads. But implementing SHA1 is like going to the opposite direction. I am not a Gnutella developer, although i know how to program. So i am not trying to "push" my ideas and make other developers to adopt them. I just like to discussing about an "on development" protocol like Gnutella. gnutellafan you said that this forum is for gnutella developers wannabies well IMHO (always ) this forum is more oganized than the GDF, and i have found more information for Gnutella protocol by following the links posted in here than downloading some files from the GDF. I also dont like registering to Yahoo. Both of you didnt answered if not using HASHes for text files is a good idea. I know that they are not too many out there downloading text files but its a possibility that it could be best to exclude. When someone sends a query then all the other clients respond with query hits thath have HASHes inside them or you have to send a query with HASH inside to filnd alternatives? |
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lend a helping hand Moak and veniamin, since you both know programing languages why dont you help out on an existing open source project. Any help would be very valuable to the development of the network. As for the GDF they of course have no power to enforce anything. However if developers dont work together the network will fall apart and become fragmented. |
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Re: lend a helping hand Speaking about myself: I do only things that make fun, especially in my free time. Haven't found a free gnutella client yet I feel comfortable with. (Perhaps when Mutella becomes better documented, Max *g*, or Xolox goes OpenSource) PS: Veniamin, currently I prefer sending a hash always when the other side requests it (0.7 proposal appendix B). Small files are not that common in Gnutella these days, so it's not a big traffic issue IMHO, also hashs help finding alternative locations when a host is "firewalled" or drops connection. Last edited by Moak; January 29th, 2002 at 09:16 PM. |
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about wannebies! Gnutellafan! Why you think that these developers here must be wannebies? I tell something... I know "one" of these wannebies - his name is godXblue! He developed a client within three months... all people who tested this client so far (they used bearshare, Limewire and Xolox before!) said this prog is great! So lets compare this with a GDF developer - for example Vinnie... he is working on bearshare for about 15 months... So our wannebe have developed in 20% of the time a much better client! Our wannebe donīt use open source... Hmm... now I wonder who is the wannebe...? Perhaps many of the GDF developers are thinking about more important things - how to make money! This is no offense Gnutellafan, only a little story about "wannebies"! Morgwen |
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Hmm, I believe I said that I was the wannabie!! I was not aware of any developers here besides cultiv8r (which I still have yet to see, same goes for client by godXblue). I apoligised for any offense, removed it, let it drop! Moak, if you dont like the direction of a client take it in a new direction. I would really like to see someone with the know-how add data encryption and encrypted file caches (as well as partial file sharing). |
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