of course the post above is mine. Hate for anyone to think that I wouldnt log in.

And of course it's "propaganda" if you don't agree with it.

Perhaps not your posts...

Do you really think Vinnie will tell you when he delete a post?

What is with the hidden spyware forum? I think this forum is deleted now?

The last sentece is bearshare propanganda!!! All voices have to be heard, I mean ALL... Gnutella is one community so all voices count, not only this who suggest something constructive!

I remember that I posted something similar to your posts, Vinnie called it offensive and started a Kick Morgwen poll! His arguement was that I flamed him - I ask him if he is kidding us? Yes, and I know at least 100 other flames from Kutulus and some others guys in his holy bearshare labs... they were never edited or deleted... yes if you agree you are allowed to flame if not...

Morgwen

I disagree. First it is Vinnies board, so he is free to do with it as he sees fit. Even if that is not the case, as in gnutellaforums, NON-constructive input gets in the way of anything productive. If you cant see that then you are blind. I know that many people here would like to believe they are the rebels fighting the evil empire that is BS, LW, and the_gdf, but fact of the matter is very little has come out of here. Most of the active developers of clients, including Gnucleus, Cultiv8or, Swapper, ect all participate with an equal voice at the gdf. Vinnie may hell louder but it still doesnt count anymore when they put matters to a vote (and they do vote and each client gets ONE ( as in 1, the number between 0 and 2) and ONLY ONE vote. Yes, Bearshare gets only one vote. LW gets only one vote. Gnucleus gets only one vote. If xolox or phex wanted to participate they would get one vote each as well. They might have to put up with Vinnie yelling at them but that is all he can do. And as you said its an open network and Vinnie is free to do so. Unfortunatly it has burnt many bridges and people look negatively on a great client.

As for your deleted thread I have no idea what the contents were. You dont have to like Vinnie personaly but all I am tring to do is be a voice of reason here, presenting the other side of the argument, for all of those that come here and read these msgs.

YOU DISAGREE???

Lets see what Vinnie said!!!

House Rules

Objective

BearShare.Net is a place for BearShare users, the Gnutella community, and all individuals interested in file sharing. It is also a place to make friends and hang out. Please remember this is a forum for people from all over the world and from all walks of life.


Hmm...

sounds like ALL people (it doesn´t matter which client) can post their opinions! He don´t say something about IT MUST BE constructive!

I don´t know what is your problem with gnutellaforums? And I really want to know why you post here if you don´t like this side? I quitted posting on bearshare.net because I am tired of discussion with people who want to hear only one side - Vinnies side!!!

I ask me why you come here and post if you think its wasted time? Or do you want to promote bearshare? Yes as a new bearshare mod you have to make PR!

Morgwen

what a hipocrisy! bearsharefan (calling itself gnutellafan) is a Bearshare moderator. Pfft, his blabla about neutrality and testing all clients and bearshare is best, I can't hear it anymore.
I would rate him troll, BUT he knows about Gnutella details and is most time friendly (not like Sephiroth) and he does not tell lies (like Mrgone69). kissing vinnies butt isn't enough, but we know about your "neutral" postings now.

And here you only want to hear the anti-bearshare side. Where is improvement in that?

this is a developer forum and the subject is 'all developers ' not 'all trolls wake up'. you have no idea about programming or gnutella protocol, would you please stop.

No I don´t want to hear only the anti-bearshare side - but i want some arguements from people who know what about they are talking, coders etc. not some people who think repeating what Vinnie told them is the best!!!

Morgwen

I have made no secret of the fact that BS is my favorit client. I used LW first but found BS to work better for me. I continue to try other clients but always go back to BS becasue it has the features that work best for ME. I have no problems with people that use other clients. I really could care less if everyone uses bearshare or not. Everyone has their own reasons for why they like one client over the other. In case you never venture around you will also find me posting at the_gdf, gnucleus.net, in the LW forums and where ever else I see fit. I am indeed a fan of gnutella and have been working hard to help contribute what I can to its improvement. It does not take the ability to write code to UNDERSTAND gnutella and the networking. I am not a programer but as far as I know no one else in this thread has a client or has contributed significant code to a client, so if you ask me to stop contributing my IDEAS (and I wont) I would ask you to do the same.